If so, wouldn't that be murder? I'll be looking forward to that indictment from the Hague. I wonder if the Norwegians are reconsidering their Peace Prize. LOL. He hasn't exceeded the warmaking of his predecessor, but he's on pace....lolSeraph wrote:Isn't that what happened?Coito ergo sum wrote:What if they had him captured, and just executed him?Ian wrote:I really don't care about the definition of "resistance". I doubt Bin Laden had been sitting in a chair twiddling his thumbs while the SEALs were helicoptering in and taking down other people in his compound before arriving at his room. So I don't care about the details of whether he was holding a gun or not. If the guy/s who finally shot saw reason to fire, then I won't question it.
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I find it disgusting that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize when clearly he is a vengeful person hell bent on killing and torturing others in the exact same manners of George Bush. If someone shot or blew up Obama right now, I wouldn't care. He asked for it.
Oh, Coito, if you change your stance on Israel and Jews, I just might like you.
Oh, Coito, if you change your stance on Israel and Jews, I just might like you.
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Troll on, sheep of state.Gawd wrote:I find it disgusting that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize when clearly he is a vengeful person hell bent on killing and torturing others in the exact same manners of George Bush. If someone shot or blew up Obama right now, I wouldn't care. He asked for it.
Threat reported.Oh, Coito, if you change your stance on Israel and Jews, I just might like you.
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Nah. I like Jews. And, I like Israel way better than I like filthy dictatorships like Syria, Egypt, Jordan, etc., and terrorist ridden swamps like Lebanon, Somalia, etc. Islam is like the reverse-Midas. Everything it touches turns to shit.Gawd wrote:I find it disgusting that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize when clearly he is a vengeful person hell bent on killing and torturing others in the exact same manners of George Bush. If someone shot or blew up Obama right now, I wouldn't care. He asked for it.
Oh, Coito, if you change your stance on Israel and Jews, I just might like you.
Hopefully you hate me again. The universe would be off-balance if you liked me.
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So I read the headline "Osama was unarmed"
Can someone please remind me which movie it was where Eastwood says "He should have armed himself"
Can someone please remind me which movie it was where Eastwood says "He should have armed himself"
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Also: Pics of dead and sploded head of nasty terrist not going to be shown ater all, fuelling much conspiracy!
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Whoever gets ahold of the pics should show them, if they leak. They ought not be kept secret - they aren't national security issues.
However, as for the conspiracy theorists, the government should simply say, "believe what you want, but you won't be hearing from bin Laden again. His video making and pontificating days are over."
However, as for the conspiracy theorists, the government should simply say, "believe what you want, but you won't be hearing from bin Laden again. His video making and pontificating days are over."
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _bush.html"So when does Seal Unit 6, or whatever it's called, drop in on George Bush? Bush was responsible for a lot more death, innocent death, than bin Laden. Wasn't he, or am I wrong here?," Liberal radio talk show host Mike Malloy said on his show Monday evening.
And, it's guys like this that keep more people from wanting to use the nomenclature "liberal." What a fucking tool. Mike Malloy always was a fucking cocksucker, but this one takes the cake. Douche!
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Some photos of the scene released by Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/ ... 0620110504
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I'm thinking that Seal Team Six, which doesn't exist, might not have a problem dropping in on Malloy...Coito ergo sum wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _bush.html"So when does Seal Unit 6, or whatever it's called, drop in on George Bush? Bush was responsible for a lot more death, innocent death, than bin Laden. Wasn't he, or am I wrong here?," Liberal radio talk show host Mike Malloy said on his show Monday evening.
And, it's guys like this that keep more people from wanting to use the nomenclature "liberal." What a fucking tool. Mike Malloy always was a fucking cocksucker, but this one takes the cake. Douche!
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What the fuck is wrong with the US government? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ll/238261/


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Here’s Nancy Pelosi from a press conference on September 7, 2006 (George Bush President):
[E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done . . . is done. And even to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer.
And here’s Nancy Pelosi May 2, 2011 (Obama President):
The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. . . . I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. . . . [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic. . . .
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/ ... cy-pelosi/
Is it just fucking impossible for a single one of these craven ass-lickers to be the least bit honest?
[E]ven if [Osama bin Laden] is caught tomorrow, it is five years too late. He has done more damage the longer he has been out there. But, in fact, the damage that he has done . . . is done. And even to capture him now I don’t think makes us any safer.
And here’s Nancy Pelosi May 2, 2011 (Obama President):
The death of Osama bin Laden marks the most significant development in our fight against al-Qaida. . . . I salute President Obama, his national security team, Director Panetta, our men and women in the intelligence community and military, and other nations who supported this effort for their leadership in achieving this major accomplishment. . . . [T]he death of Osama bin Laden is historic. . . .
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/ ... cy-pelosi/
Is it just fucking impossible for a single one of these craven ass-lickers to be the least bit honest?
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Nope. First, he's not a U.S. citizen, second, he was not within the borders of the United States, third, he was a terrorist, fourth he was an unlawful combatant, fifth he was levying war on the United States, sixth, our military is under no obligation to ask the enemy to surrender before killing them, although they did, and he refused, so he has no rights under our Constitution at all, except the right to high velocity delivery of copper-jacketed lead to his skull.Coito ergo sum wrote:Was it an unlawful killing, though?
U.S. forces enter another country without permission or even prior notice, guns-a-blazin', and kill an unarmed man, along with several other civilians.
Wasn't he entitled to due process and a trial?
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Well, just because he's not a US citizen doesn't mean it's open season. There are Pakistani domestic laws, and also international law which prohibits killing people - even soldiers - absent appropriate circumstances.Seth wrote:Nope. First, he's not a U.S. citizen, second, he was not within the borders of the United States, third, he was a terrorist, fourth he was an unlawful combatant, fifth he was levying war on the United States, sixth, our military is under no obligation to ask the enemy to surrender before killing them, although they did, and he refused, so he has no rights under our Constitution at all, except the right to high velocity delivery of copper-jacketed lead to his skull.Coito ergo sum wrote:Was it an unlawful killing, though?
U.S. forces enter another country without permission or even prior notice, guns-a-blazin', and kill an unarmed man, along with several other civilians.
Wasn't he entitled to due process and a trial?
Not being within the borders of the US doesn't mean he can just be killed willy-nilly.
He was an ALLEGED terrorist.
He was an ALLEGED unlawful combatant.
He was ALLEGEDLY levying war against the US.
Our military is under an obligation to not kill unarmed people who aren't posing a threat. Even in combat, if someone drops their weapons, it's murder to shot them.
Someone SAID they did ask him, and he refused - but, so far, 1/2 of what was reported about how the incident went down was wrong. Supposedly he had a weapon and used a woman as a human shield. Apparently that was false.
Did the U.S. have a lawful right to invade Pakistan, destroy its property, kill its citizens, without asking first? We have asserted that right - under George Bush the US said that in pursuit of terrorists we would not agree to respect international borders and we will pursue them wherever they go - but, as I recall, there was fierce resistance to that concept by many of the same folks who now applaud Obama for doing exactly that....
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Shit Seth! I agree with most of that.Seth wrote:Nope. First, he's not a U.S. citizen, second, he was not within the borders of the United States, third, he was a terrorist, fourth he was an unlawful combatant, fifth he was levying war on the United States, sixth, our military is under no obligation to ask the enemy to surrender before killing them, although they did, and he refused, so he has no rights under our Constitution at all, except the right to high velocity delivery of copper-jacketed lead to his skull.Coito ergo sum wrote:Was it an unlawful killing, though?
U.S. forces enter another country without permission or even prior notice, guns-a-blazin', and kill an unarmed man, along with several other civilians.
Wasn't he entitled to due process and a trial?
Bin-Laden is on video publicly declaring war against the United States of America and then he proceeded to wage that war. Nothing short of leaving the compound to unconditionally surrender would or should have saved him for a trial.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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