lol @ American law enforcement

[Coito ergo sum]

"I'm shaking like a French soldier." - Lenny, from the Simpsons.

[Gallstones]

Stabbed While Buying Chocolate Milk

I just found out that my friend was stabbed last week during an attempted robbery. He went to the 7 Eleven around the corner from his house around 8:50PM to go get some chocolate milk. He was was just wearing some gym shorts and a shirt but had his Glock 20 with him. While I don't recommend carrying without a holster, it sounds like it saved him in this situation.

Apparently after he got out of the store from buying his chocolate milk, the robber backed his car up by his driver side door, ran out and stabbed him in the leg and then demanded money.

Instead of giving him money Dave pulled his Glock 20 and then the robber took off and leaving his car in the parking lot. He said he didn't fire since the robbery was running away.

The police apprehended with with the help of a K9 dog which the robber also assaulted. My friend is recovering but will be fine.

This just goes to show you that things can happen at anytime and anywhere. He was less than a few blocks away from his house which is technically in a nice neighborhood.

[Aos Si]

Are you a Brit? If so, you have no place making comments about "blue blood," Mr. "White Man's Burden." By all means, say hello to the Queen and all the Lords and Ladies at the wedding on Friday....

You really do have a chip on your shoulder about most of Europe. It smacks of an inferiority complex, or perhaps a Napoleon complex. I'd work on that, because it comes across like you are just bigotted towards anyone who is not American in the Western world which I'm sure is not the case, but you've clearly declared you find lying and libelling an entire race of people amusing, which worries me, and now you are referring to a countries history as if someone born hundreds of years after the fact bears the weight of blame for it? How bizarre and convenient that you act as a colossal apologist for anything your own nation does and denigrate others who don't and wouldn't even begin to indulge in apologetics. You are most definitely extremely nationalistic, I'm trying to figure out if that makes you a racist too, or your just a hypocrite, I haven't decided yet. But you clearly have some serious issues. You must lug a round so much cognitive dissonance that it clouds your reason.

Anyway on topic I really think you are blowing up what was a perfectly civil discussion into some socialist crime.

Not at all, not about Europe. If I have a chip on my shoulder, it's about self-righteous smugness.

I'm confronting bigotry toward Americans, and you think that's me being bigoted toward anyone who is not American. There's that self-righteous smugness rearing its ugly head again....

I've never declared that I find lying and libeling an entire race of people amusing. I've never lied about or libeled any race. I did, however, defend Clinton Huxley, a Brit, when he was rabidly attacked for making a joke about the French. I stand by that. If Clinton Huxley libeled and lied by joking about the French not being particularly brave, well, you'll have to take that up with him. However, my defense of him doesn't make his offense mine.

And, do they teach you folks anything in school? You think that Britain's offenses lie 100s of years in the past? Are you kidding me? Do I really need to educate you on your own country's history?

And, I haven't apologized for anything. Not being willing to put up with the smug finger-pointing from folks who are in no position to talk is not apologetics. Britain's foreign policy has been in lock-step with the United States for the last 75 years, for example, so whatever offenses you are claiming I'm apologizing for are likely Britain's as well. You can't disavow events your country participated in yourself.

And, I've not mentioned socialism in the least.

Yeah whatever dude I am not biggoted towards Americans and all you are doing is projecting you insecurities on other people. It's clear to everyone that like Seth you are a colossal apologist who does not see anything hypocritical in that. I wouldn't try and pretend you are something you are not, your prodigious weight of cognitive dissonance is enough already. You love your nation so much you are blind to its sins, that is not a patriot that is a fanatic.

No one is trying to apologise for my nations crimes get that fucking straight all they are doing is pointing out yours. Stop making fucking stupid non sequiturs, you are the only apologist here, we all accepted our nation was a shitty piece of work years ago, whats your major malfunction?

Yeah obviously you don't know what socialism actually means either and think it's purely real world communism.

The only smugness here is yours, I am willing to accept my nation is a cunt, you make excuses and lie to yourself about everything your country does. That is nationalism, the idolisation of one nation state and the denigration of all others. That is exactly what you are doing. You refuse to accept your own crimes, but are more than willing to point them out in others. You are a hypocrite and you know it. It is not a healthy state to be in, because it has already lead you to be racist (if only mildly) about other nations and probably will continue to do so. You're not fooling anyone, you need to be standing on a platform of accepting that your own nation is just as corrupt as every other Western one. 'Til you do no one is going to take you or America seriously.

Here's rule 1: if a mass murderer reports another serial killer to the police, the policeman doesn't turn round and say your one to talk and refuse to investigate. Stop talking illogical shit at me. And stop using pathetic non sequiturs like well your one to talk, and two wrongs make a right, it makes your argument sound retarded and you sound like even more of an apologist.

"Well doing bad things is fine because other people do!"

I grew out of saying that when I was a teenager; just as I see the logical fallacy of obfuscating your own crimes by observing that other nations are bad. And then accusing them of being apologists when just the paragraph before they held there hands up and said guilty as charged. I genuinely think you don't read or listen to what people say, but that is by the by.

[Aos Si]

"I'm shaking like a French soldier." - Lenny, from the Simpsons.

You are a rather pathetic and you wouldn't know humour if it smacked you in the head, and you do genuinely need to grow the hell up.

You seem to forget that the French invaded and took over our whole nation and our monarchy are descended from them historically, something we never returned to them, and the half of land we did gain they got back under Jean D'arc so our claims never held. Ultimately the hundred years war was a colossal failure and waste of resources for both sides, do you understand what it means to be at war for over a hundred years? Does that sound remotely cowardly to you? You're pathetic attempts at justifying the French as cowards are becoming more and more racist as time goes by. All you are doing by trying to justify these lies is making yourself out to be racist towards an entire nation based on some joke that was dead before it started. Ignorant and racist. It's gone from being a mildly racist lie to the act of an apologist for thinly veneered racism now, well done. The French were pivotal in you being any nation at all, if it weren't for fear of Napoleon and earlier before independence your aid your nation would probably be an ex colony like Canada now and part of the commonwealth, we could of easily taken back the US without France banging on our door, something they did deliberately to take our attention of their ally. How ungrateful a wanker is your nation to the one nation ally that kept you free? It's like an infant who got spanked once by an old friend just stabbing someone to death. A total betrayal of history and conviviality on the whims of a 5 star cunt who you idolise merely because the wanker was alive recently. How soon you forget. And what is Frances crime? One leader saved thousands of French lives in a war they couldn't possibly win rather than to see them hopelessly outmatched against the Blitzkreig of the Germans. FFS? One fucking man, is not a nation, and I wouldn't even say he was a coward, a pragmatist maybe, slightly misguided perhaps. But is one man his whole nation? Do I pull out notable occasions when your nation surrendered such as when we burnt down the Whitehouse and run with them for eternity calling the US cowards. No because I am not a cunt.

Oh and you are not funny at all, not even remotely, being a gratuitously offensive liar is not part of a comedians repertoire it is part of a Nationalist racists repertoire. Which is rapidly I am deciding what you enjoy painting yourself as. So laugh it up if you want but it's not doing your reputation much good. People are going to recognise you for what you really are sooner or later.

When you are in a hole its wise to stop digging. You're just making it worse for yourself.

That's the last I'm going to say on this subject so respond if you must but if you continue to act like a child I will just do what I do to annoying children and put you on ignore.

[Clinton Huxley]

Look, there has to be a butt to every joke and the French make an excellent butt.

[Svartalf]

and your butt is so vast and soft as to make perfect target for kicking practice.

[Clinton Huxley]

and your butt is so vast and soft as to make perfect target for kicking practice.

C'est impossiblé, I would never turn my back on a Frenchman

[Coito ergo sum]

Yeah whatever dude I am not biggoted towards Americans and all you are doing is projecting you insecurities on other people. It's clear to everyone that like Seth you are a colossal apologist who does not see anything hypocritical in that.

Bullshit. One, you sound bigoted against Americans because you make negative stereotypes and generalizations about them.

I haven't engaged in a single incident of apologetics. The only thing I did was refuse to accept your self-righteous indignation. And, I'll never apologize for that.

I wouldn't try and pretend you are something you are not, your prodigious weight of cognitive dissonance is enough already. You love your nation so much you are blind to its sins, that is not a patriot that is a fanatic.

You ignore your nation's sins, or disavow any responsibility for them, but you point your finger at me, and blame me for my nation's sins. You also stupidly pretend that Britain's foreign policy hasn't been in lock-step with American foreign policy since World War 2 and that Britain has stood shoulder to shoulder in all of these "sins" that you blame on the U.S.

No one is trying to apologise for my nations crimes get that fucking straight all they are doing is pointing out yours.

Bull - you flippin' DENIED them - you sit there and claim - ignorantly - that your nation's sins occurred "hundreds" of years ago - your words, not mine.

Stop making fucking stupid non sequiturs, you are the only apologist here, we all accepted our nation was a shitty piece of work years ago, whats your major malfunction?

Was? WAS? Your nation invaded Iraq. Your nation invaded Afghanistan. Your nation went to war with Argentina over the Falkland Islands, which are traditionally Argentinian but was "colonized" by Britain. Your nation is bombing Libya, and probably has some ground troops there covertly.

Stop talking in the fucking past tense. If I am to be saddled with these "sins" in the present tense, then so are you. You want to talk about "cognitive dissonance" - look to yourself you giant flaming hypocrite. Stop blaming your own country's policies on the US. It's YOUR country. If you think these things are sins - then they are YOUR sins. Not mine.

Yeah obviously you don't know what socialism actually means either and think it's purely real world communism.

I haven't discussed socialism on this thread.

The only smugness here is yours, I am willing to accept my nation is a cunt, you make excuses and lie to yourself about everything your country does.

Please cite one example of me making "excuses" for "everything my country does." Can't? Thought so.

Oh - here you switch to the present tense. Are you admitting now that your country has participated in almost ever "sin" you attribute to the U.S?

That is nationalism, the idolisation of one nation state and the denigration of all others.

I haven't denigrated any nation, and I certainly haven't idolized one. You, on the other hand, have certainly denigrated the U.S., and pretended to the superiority of your own.

That is exactly what you are doing. You refuse to accept your own crimes, but are more than willing to point them out in others.

I've never been unwilling to acknowledge crimes - Chili, for example. Gulf of Tonkin incident. The U.S.'s role/assistance in the British overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran in the 1950s... there are three examples.

Again - what I won't accept is self-righteous finger pointing by the benighted denizen of the country that perfected, if not invented, national colonialism, and participated in almost every "sin" that you ascribe to my country since WW2, and a few of its own. Look to your own house, and keep your fingers in your pockets.

You are a hypocrite and you know it. It is not a healthy state to be in, because it has already lead you to be racist (if only mildly)

I'm not racist in the least, you smug, little, hateful troll.

about other nations and probably will continue to do so. You're not fooling anyone, you need to be standing on a platform of accepting that your own nation is just as corrupt as every other Western one. 'Til you do no one is going to take you or America seriously.

Who said it wasn't? What YOU need to do is understand that however, "corrupt" the US, Britain is equally so.

Here's rule 1: if a mass murderer reports another serial killer to the police, the policeman doesn't turn round and say your one to talk and refuse to investigate.

I've not suggested any such thing. However, if a mass murderer points a judgmental finger at another mass murderer and begins to pontificate and moralize at the "sins" of the other, the other is certainly justified in telling the self-righteous piece of shit to stuff it in his ear. I'll not be lectured to by a puny moralizer whose nation occupies no moral high ground compared to mine. Period.

Stop talking illogical shit at me. And stop using pathetic non sequiturs like well your one to talk, and two wrongs make a right, it makes your argument sound retarded and you sound like even more of an apologist.

Why did you single out AMERICANS when Clinton Huxley - A Brit - made a joke about the French being cowards? We all know why - because you ignore the "sins" of the British, and you are prejudiced against Americans. To you, Americans are the "rednecks" who make French jokes, and Britain is more "enlightened" than that. If you had any sense of decency or consistency you would have railed against the BRITISH habit of unfairly denigrating the French for cheap laughs. But, you didn't. You let the British off the hook, and went straight for the Americans. Don't deny it. That's what you did.

"Well doing bad things is fine because other people do!"

I grew out of saying that when I was a teenager; just as I see the logical fallacy of obfuscating your own crimes by observing that other nations are bad. And then accusing them of being apologists when just the paragraph before they held there hands up and said guilty as charged. I genuinely think you don't read or listen to what people say, but that is by the by.

Let's not forget, again, how this conversation arose. YOU objected to a British guy's joke about the French, and you then went off on a tangent blaming Americans for being racist and bigoted against the French and having been that way for quite a long time. You said you tired of AMERICANS making these kinds of RACIST jokes about the French, when the French really weren't cowards. So, you sought to blame Americans, and me, for the sins of a British person on this thread, and presumably the general habit of Brits to unfairly lambaste the French.

Did you do that because you're fair and evenhanded?

You're giant joke. I'll buy your shit when you go on a rant about the British racism against the French.

[Clinton Huxley]

This is my favourite thread ever, it has everything!

[Coito ergo sum]

"I'm shaking like a French soldier." - Lenny, from the Simpsons.

You are a rather pathetic and you wouldn't know humour if it smacked you in the head, and you do genuinely need to grow the hell up.

Give us a refresher on your views on Americans and rednecks. Then I'll take you seriously. It's a joke, ass-wipe, and it was on a sit-com in the 1990s. Blame The Simpsons. And stop being such a whiny little bitch and complaining about every joke you don't like. Either give us a list of "approved humor" to follow, and have it made part of the Rationalia rules, or stop harping about it, you little toady.

You seem to forget that the French invaded and took over our whole nation and our monarchy are descended from them historically,

The Normans invaded in 1066. They were descended from Vikings (Rollo was William's grandfather, as I recall, or maybe great-grandfather). William and the Normans were not ethnically French, but he was a Duke and a vassal of the French King.

something we never returned to them, and the half of land we did gain they got back under Jean D'arc so our claims never held. Ultimately the hundred years war was a colossal failure and waste of resources for both sides, do you understand what it means to be at war for over a hundred years? Does that sound remotely cowardly to you?

Jokes don't need to be accurate to be funny. Moreover, what happened 1000 and 1500 years ago is largely irrelevant to the issue.

You're pathetic attempts at justifying the French as cowards are becoming more and more racist as time goes by.

Something is seriously wrong with you. I'm not trying to "justify" anything. Scandinavians don't have square heads, but it still is funny sometimes when they're called "squareheads." The Irish aren't drunker than most other Europeans, but it's still funny.

When Fawlty Towers mocked Americans on a very funny episode - it wasn't an accurate portrayal, but it was still funny:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj9TRVZo ... re=related[/youtube]

All you are doing by trying to justify these lies is making yourself out to be racist towards an entire nation based on some joke that was dead before it started.

Idiot - did you ever see how Monty Python portrayed the French in the movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Hateful, indeed....lol

Ignorant and racist. It's gone from being a mildly racist lie to the act of an apologist for thinly veneered racism now, well done. The French were pivotal in you being any nation at all, if it weren't for fear of Napoleon and earlier before independence your aid your nation would probably be an ex colony like Canada now and part of the commonwealth, we could of easily taken back the US without France banging on our door, something they did deliberately to take our attention of their ally. How ungrateful a wanker is your nation to the one nation ally that kept you free? It's like an infant who got spanked once by an old friend just stabbing someone to death. A total betrayal of history and conviviality on the whims of a 5 star cunt who you idolise merely because the wanker was alive recently. How soon you forget. And what is Frances crime? One leader saved thousands of French lives in a war they couldn't possibly win rather than to see them hopelessly outmatched against the Blitzkreig of the Germans. FFS? One fucking man, is not a nation, and I wouldn't even say he was a coward, a pragmatist maybe, slightly misguided perhaps. But is one man his whole nation? Do I pull out notable occasions when your nation surrendered such as when we burnt down the Whitehouse and run with them for eternity calling the US cowards. No because I am not a cunt.

Are you SERIOUSLY contending that humor against the French, and implying they are cowardly, is an AMERICAN thing? You Brits INVENTED it, you little lying scumbag! Fucking Huxley made the joke that set you off. Go off on him, you little weasel.

Oh and you are not funny at all, not even remotely, being a gratuitously offensive liar is not part of a comedians repertoire it is part of a Nationalist racists repertoire. Which is rapidly I am deciding what you enjoy painting yourself as. So laugh it up if you want but it's not doing your reputation much good. People are going to recognise you for what you really are sooner or later.

When you are in a hole its wise to stop digging. You're just making it worse for yourself.

That's the last I'm going to say on this subject so respond if you must but if you continue to act like a child I will just do what I do to annoying children and put you on ignore.

Yawn.

[Coito ergo sum]

More American humor unfairly characterizing the French:

[Coito ergo sum]

Look, there has to be a butt to every joke and the French make an excellent butt.

You god damn racist American, CH!

Off with your head!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nx0mEW8 ... re=related[/youtube]

Don't you know, CH, that it is verboten to make jokes that are not entirely accurate portrayals of the subject of the humor?

[Clinton Huxley]

Don't you know, CH, that it is verboten to make jokes that are not entirely accurate portrayals of the subject of the humor?

Q) Did you hear the one about the Frenchman, the German and the Briton?

A) They decided to form an ever-deeping monetary union

It's the way I tell them.

[Coito ergo sum]

Don't you know, CH, that it is verboten to make jokes that are not entirely accurate portrayals of the subject of the humor?

Q) Did you hear the one about the Frenchman, the German and the Briton?

A) They decided to form an ever-deeping monetary union

It's the way I tell them.

Just don't call them chicken...that's crossing the line.

Q: How do you get a French waiter's attention?
A: Start ordering in German.

[egbert]

I haven't engaged in a single incident of apologetics.

BULLSHIT!

When I pointed out the CIA engineered overthrow of a Democratically elected government in Guyana (because it had such horrible SOCIALIST leanings as to give free milk to school children! The Audacity!) and install, (as usual) a Dictator named Forbes Burnham.
The response from Coito ergo sum was the STRAWMAN/RED HERRING that worse things happened in Japan in WWII!
WTF did that have to do with the sabotaging of a peaceful government, in a country known as "The Breadbasket of the Caribbean".
Didn't take long for the USA to turn it into an impoverished nation which everyone who could fled.
Employing fallacies is just a form of lying.