And he's a religious zealot...AshtonBlack wrote:
Richard Dawkins is an anti-theist, also an atheist.
So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Don't demean yourself that way Gawzilla, we still like you even though you are aGawdzilla wrote:

"Seth is Grandmaster Zen Troll who trains his victims to troll themselves every time they think of him" Robert_S
"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Lame Seth is lame. Why do you bother? You talk all day long and say nothing, and then applaud yourself, thinking you're a wit. You're half right.Seth wrote:Don't demean yourself that way Gawzilla, we still like you even though you are aGawdzilla wrote:
Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Perhaps, but that's still 100 percent more wit than you demonstrate.Gawdzilla wrote:Lame Seth is lame. Why do you bother? You talk all day long and say nothing, and then applaud yourself, thinking you're a wit. You're half right.Seth wrote:Don't demean yourself that way Gawzilla, we still like you even though you are aGawdzilla wrote:
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"All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Ah, the Peewee Herman defense. "I know you are, but what am I?" Perfect Seth.
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Right, so there are a few different religions that an atheist can have. Methinks this big "A" atheism of which you write (do you mean gnu-athism?) would be more of a social cause and/or political position.Seth wrote:Nope. Nothing in the various definitions of religion require theistic beliefs. Buddhism and Secular Humanism, and even Scientology for example are all non-theistic religions.Robert_S wrote:No it's not even a philosophy. Atheist can be an adjective describing a philosophy, or anything else, that lacks theism.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Jesus fucking Christ! How the hell did I miss this little gem? Atheism is a religion? No, in order for atheism to be a religion, it would at the very least need to be a philosophy. Simply lacking belief in a god is not a system of belief. It is a lack of belief (specifically in a god). One might argue that secular humanism is a religion because it is a philosophy or belief system. To argue that atheism is a religion is to misunderstand the definition of the word atheism. There are different dictionary definitions of the word atheism, but the consensus among ALL of them is that it is "lack of belief in deities".
If you use the bible as your moral compass, chances are you're lost.
When Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" he wasn't saying that people shouldn't be stoned. He was requesting the first pitch.
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
I think Seth is trying to coin a word by introducing the capital "A" into the word "atheism".Neoatheist wrote:Jesus fucking Christ! How the hell did I miss this little gem? Atheism is a religion? No, in order for atheism to be a religion, it would at the very least need to be a philosophy. Simply lacking belief in a god is not a system of belief. It is a lack of belief (specifically in a god). One might argue that secular humanism is a religion because it is a philosophy or belief system. To argue that atheism is a religion is to misunderstand the definition of the word atheism. There are different dictionary definitions of the word atheism, but the consensus among ALL of them is that it is "lack of belief in deities".
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
No, but they often are. Let me put it this way. I am technically an atheist. I think I understand what gods are and what function they serve in our experience. It is my opinion that life as we live it is irrational. We don't get to choose our motivations. So God told me to do it is a perfectly fine model of the life intention that compels us. It's just that a god is not something that is transparently real to me; no emotional connection. I actually have no desire to make the world a better place, so I am not sure if I have a religion at all. Rationalists generally believe that having good reasons and spurning "superstition" are shoulds. I have no such delusions. Rationality is simply a tool to make nuclear reactors or nuclear bombs or whatever moves you. So do I have a religion? I'd be interested in your opinion.Seth wrote: Atheism and rationalism are not necessarily interconnected. Implict atheists do not have to be rationalists, do they?
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Unfortunately for Seth, until theist is a proper noun and deserves a capital "T", the "a" in atheist will humbly stay lowercase.Robert_S wrote:I think Seth is trying to coin a word by introducing the capital "A" into the word "atheism".Neoatheist wrote:Jesus fucking Christ! How the hell did I miss this little gem? Atheism is a religion? No, in order for atheism to be a religion, it would at the very least need to be a philosophy. Simply lacking belief in a god is not a system of belief. It is a lack of belief (specifically in a god). One might argue that secular humanism is a religion because it is a philosophy or belief system. To argue that atheism is a religion is to misunderstand the definition of the word atheism. There are different dictionary definitions of the word atheism, but the consensus among ALL of them is that it is "lack of belief in deities".
If you use the bible as your moral compass, chances are you're lost.
When Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" he wasn't saying that people shouldn't be stoned. He was requesting the first pitch.
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Correction: Theism conceives of god as personal, present and active in the governance and organization of the world and the universe. The vast majority of atheists do not positively claim to know that there are no such gods. They just lack a belief in the existence of any, pending evidence to the contrary in the same way that most people lacked a belief in the existence of black swans until they were discovered to exist. There is nothing religious about lacking a belief in the existence of something due to the lack of evidence in such an entity's existence.Seth wrote:An explicit atheist forms a belief about gods.
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
Like this one?Gawdzilla wrote:I would want to be a cardinal sin.
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Re: So Neo, did you know that Atheism is a religion?
How please? List some of these practices, that if witnessed, would lead the reasonable person to conclude that the practices are religious and that the religion being practiced is a/Atheism.Seth wrote:But atheism may be practiced as a religion, and often is.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's neither a religion, nor a philosophy.Gonzo wrote:No, it's not. It's a philosophy. Religions have rituals, dieties, leading figures, holy books, faith-based beliefs, and passage rights.
Atheism is the belief that there are not gods, or the lack of any belief in any gods, or at least the position that there is insufficient evidence from which to conclude that any gods exist. No philosophical position is necessitated by atheism - one may be a nihilist, objectivist, existentialist, Epicurean, or whatever, and still be an atheist.
There is no philosophy of atheism.
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