Why don't people read more?
- laklak
- Posts: 21022
- Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:07 pm
- About me: My preferred pronoun is "Massah"
- Location: Tannhauser Gate
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
I think dumbing down is great. When we get to the point that only 10% of the population can read or do basic maths we'll be the goddamned nobility. The peons will come to us with offerings like nubile young women and unblemished goats so we can read the signs and portents and tell them when to plant their potatoes. We'll predict eclipses and drive off the Sun Eater. We'll know when the full moon occurs and when the seasons start. Every year they'll contribute three months free labor to build our palaces and wait on our every mood and desire.
Bring.It.On. It's gonna fucking ROCK.
Bring.It.On. It's gonna fucking ROCK.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
-
- Posts: 32040
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
It takes about 10 minutes to read about 5 pages. Take a crap, read 5 pages. Finish a 300 page book in 2 months.Svartalf wrote:well, if you got 5 hrs free time in your day (discarding work, sleep, and some basic necessities like meals, a short commute and bathroom time), and you spend 2 of those watching TV, 2 more between your computer and phone, checking messages or facebook, tweetering etc, and possibly listening to music for some time, or engaging in an actual hobby... what's left for books?
The point wasn't that you have to read on the crapper - just that there is 10 minutes in the day somewhere.Svartalf wrote:
and my morning crap, beside the fact it usually happens during office time, rarely takes long enough to read 10 pages... not everybody has that particular time available. and I know lots of people who read papers and mags when they are out of home (like in the transports)
- Twoflower
- Queen of Slugs
- Posts: 16611
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:23 pm
- About me: Twoflower is the optimistic-but-naive tourist. He often runs into danger, being certain that nothing bad will happen to him since he is not involved. He also believes in the fundamental goodness of human nature and that all problems can be resolved, if all parties show good will and cooperate.
- Location: Boston
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
I love reading and try to make to time to read every night before I go to bed. I haven't had as much time to read this year because I am graduating in May and have had to focus on classes, but I own a kindle and I agree with what everyone else has said about them. It's fantastic.
I'm wild just like a rock, a stone, a tree
And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
And it's beautiful, that's life

And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
And it's beautiful, that's life

- hadespussercats
- I've come for your pants.
- Posts: 18586
- Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:27 am
- About me: Looks pretty good, coming out of the back of his neck like that.
- Location: Gotham
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
I actually have book addiction issues and sometimes I have to swear myself off reading for a while. I'll stay up all night reading, for no good reason, even if it's a book I've read a gajillion times before (I do like to re-read-- a different experience from the first time through something, and sometimes akin to a pleasant visit with old friends.)
I get all jones-y, and nothing gets done-- cleaning, paperwork, etc., etc.
BUT-- I will abandon a book if it's not working for me-- without shame. Life is too short and there are too many good books out there to waste time finishing bad ones.
Oddly enough, I still find plenty of time to waste on-line and in front of the TV. Just talented that way, I guess.
After I was recovering from being sick last year, I went through a long phase where I couldn't focus on anything I was trying to read for more than a paragraph at a time.
I felt amputated.
I started to feel like my old reading self this past fall. With only a few moratoriums necessary since.
Oh, and in other news-- I illustrated a cover for a children's book that is now available on Kindle! PM me if you're interested.
I get all jones-y, and nothing gets done-- cleaning, paperwork, etc., etc.
BUT-- I will abandon a book if it's not working for me-- without shame. Life is too short and there are too many good books out there to waste time finishing bad ones.
Oddly enough, I still find plenty of time to waste on-line and in front of the TV. Just talented that way, I guess.
After I was recovering from being sick last year, I went through a long phase where I couldn't focus on anything I was trying to read for more than a paragraph at a time.
I felt amputated.
I started to feel like my old reading self this past fall. With only a few moratoriums necessary since.
Oh, and in other news-- I illustrated a cover for a children's book that is now available on Kindle! PM me if you're interested.
The green careening planet
spins blindly in the dark
so close to annihilation.
Listen. No one listens. Meow.
spins blindly in the dark
so close to annihilation.
Listen. No one listens. Meow.
- maiforpeace
- Account Suspended at Member's Request
- Posts: 15726
- Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:41 am
- Location: under the redwood trees
Re: Why don't people read more?
I don't read children's books, but I would love to see the illustration!hadespussercats wrote:I actually have book addiction issues and sometimes I have to swear myself off reading for a while. I'll stay up all night reading, for no good reason, even if it's a book I've read a gajillion times before (I do like to re-read-- a different experience from the first time through something, and sometimes akin to a pleasant visit with old friends.)
I get all jones-y, and nothing gets done-- cleaning, paperwork, etc., etc.
BUT-- I will abandon a book if it's not working for me-- without shame. Life is too short and there are too many good books out there to waste time finishing bad ones.
Oddly enough, I still find plenty of time to waste on-line and in front of the TV. Just talented that way, I guess.
After I was recovering from being sick last year, I went through a long phase where I couldn't focus on anything I was trying to read for more than a paragraph at a time.
I felt amputated.
I started to feel like my old reading self this past fall. With only a few moratoriums necessary since.
Oh, and in other news-- I illustrated a cover for a children's book that is now available on Kindle! PM me if you're interested.
Atheists have always argued that this world is all that we have, and that our duty is to one another to make the very most and best of it. ~Christopher Hitchens~
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3534/379 ... 3be9_o.jpg[/imgc]
- JimC
- The sentimental bloke
- Posts: 74096
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 am
- About me: To be serious about gin requires years of dedicated research.
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
This post has made me want to get one! Better start saving...Coito ergo sum wrote:I have a Nook. Not only is it great in the way you describe, but for now the books are cheaper, and even sometimes free. One can go to google books and get anything out of copyright for free, save it to a .pdf and upload it to the Kindle in seconds. Phenomenal.laklak wrote:Mrs. Lak and I got Kindles last year, it's the greatest invention since the Gutenberg press. I've got 6 books going at the moment I can switch back and forth between with the press of a couple of buttons. I didn't think I'd like it, no book to hold or pages to turn, but it's marvelous. I've always read a lot, but I read even more now that it's so convenient. Lots of free books out there, and the Kindle price is always much cheaper than the hardback or even paperback prices. It's well worth the money, now I want a Nook also.
For $1.99, I bought 50 Sci-Fi classic books, including a host of old Edgar Rice Burroughs, HG Wells, Jules Verne and other timeless classics.
I love the Nook. It's far better than books. The last time I had to move I had about 30 large boxes full of paper books, and my shelves in the house had been overflowing - some had migrated to the basement to dwell in darkness. With the Nook, many books will fit on the device itself, and copies are backed up to my computer, and my computer's backup. They can be stored in .pdf format, and I can surf an entire library, plus google books from the device, and download from Barnes & Noble, while waiting for my plane to take off. I can carry my library into the "reading room" (ahem) in our house, and I can carry my library to the beach. It's actually easier to read the Nook on the beach in the sunlight than a regular book.
It is a marvelous device, and I would opt for the e-Ink non-backlit version for reading purposes. Much easier on the eyes than backlit screens.
I love it.
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!
And my gin!
- Warren Dew
- Posts: 3781
- Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:41 pm
- Location: Somerville, MA, USA
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
These statistics may be somewhat misleading. There is plenty of reading material that isn't in book form. Granted reading The New York Times Magazine isn't as good as actually reading the books reviewed in that magazine, but it's hardly illiteracy.Coito ergo sum wrote:1/3 of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.
42 percent of college graduates never read another book after college.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year
How do they prevent piracy?Coito ergo sum wrote:They can be stored in .pdf format
I'd be a lot more interested in digital books if I could read them as PDFs on my computer screen.
- Atheist-Lite
- Formerly known as Crumple
- Posts: 8745
- Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:35 pm
- About me: You need a jetpack? Here, take mine. I don't need a jetpack this far away.
- Location: In the Galactic Hub, Yes That One !!!
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
You can get kindle for PC then there's Readibility.Warren Dew wrote:These statistics may be somewhat misleading. There is plenty of reading material that isn't in book form. Granted reading The New York Times Magazine isn't as good as actually reading the books reviewed in that magazine, but it's hardly illiteracy.Coito ergo sum wrote:1/3 of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.
42 percent of college graduates never read another book after college.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year
How do they prevent piracy?Coito ergo sum wrote:They can be stored in .pdf format
I'd be a lot more interested in digital books if I could read them as PDFs on my computer screen.
https://www.readability.com
nxnxm,cm,m,fvmf,vndfnm,nm,f,dvm,v v vmfm,vvm,d,dd vv sm,mvd,fmf,fn ,v fvfm,
- Tero
- Just saying
- Posts: 51128
- Joined: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:50 pm
- About me: 15-32-25
- Location: USA
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
I find I read less easy fiction before the e books. I tend to finish them on e readers and not put them on a shelf or archive. But I do read reference and nonfiction in short sections, so there the e books are no good, paper better. iPhone apps are better for reference material.
International disaster, gonna be a blaster
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
Don't wait to see the white of his eyes
International disaster, international disaster
Price of silver droppin' so do yer Christmas shopping
Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)
Gonna rearrange our lives
International disaster, send for the master
Don't wait to see the white of his eyes
International disaster, international disaster
Price of silver droppin' so do yer Christmas shopping
Before you lose the chance to score (Pembroke)
- Rob
- Carpe Diem
- Posts: 2558
- Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:49 am
- About me: Just a man in love with science and the pursuit of knowledge.
- Location: Seattle, WA
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
I can't tell you how many times I have stayed up all night to finish a book. It's a bad habit of mine, this incurable lust for reading anything. Seriously, I haven't found a topic to bore me. History of the third reich, A look into existentialism, A tale of two cities, Moby Dick, European history from 1950-2000, a book depicting the struggles and trials of diaspora world wide.hadespussercats wrote:I actually have book addiction issues and sometimes I have to swear myself off reading for a while. I'll stay up all night reading, for no good reason, even if it's a book I've read a gajillion times before (I do like to re-read-- a different experience from the first time through something, and sometimes akin to a pleasant visit with old friends.)
I can live with doubt, and uncertainty, and not knowing. I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong. [...] I don’t feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in a mysterious universe without having any purpose, which is the way it really is, as far as I can tell, possibly. It doesn’t frighten me. - Richard Feynman
- hadespussercats
- I've come for your pants.
- Posts: 18586
- Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:27 am
- About me: Looks pretty good, coming out of the back of his neck like that.
- Location: Gotham
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
That twitchy jonesing for a new read-- gazing at the shelves-- nope, nope, not that, not that-- sort of like when you keep looking in the fridge, hoping there'll be something different in there this time.Rob wrote:I can't tell you how many times I have stayed up all night to finish a book. It's a bad habit of mine, this incurable lust for reading anything. Seriously, I haven't found a topic to bore me. History of the third reich, A look into existentialism, A tale of two cities, Moby Dick, European history from 1950-2000, a book depicting the struggles and trials of diaspora world wide.hadespussercats wrote:I actually have book addiction issues and sometimes I have to swear myself off reading for a while. I'll stay up all night reading, for no good reason, even if it's a book I've read a gajillion times before (I do like to re-read-- a different experience from the first time through something, and sometimes akin to a pleasant visit with old friends.)
And then--- the excitement of coming home from the used bookstore with a big bag of new reads--- aw, yeah!
There are worse addictions...
The green careening planet
spins blindly in the dark
so close to annihilation.
Listen. No one listens. Meow.
spins blindly in the dark
so close to annihilation.
Listen. No one listens. Meow.
- Warren Dew
- Posts: 3781
- Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:41 pm
- Location: Somerville, MA, USA
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
This is one of the reasons I'm sometimes afraid to buy new books ... or pull old ones off the shelf. I guess it's okay on fridays and saturdays.Rob wrote:I can't tell you how many times I have stayed up all night to finish a book.
- JimC
- The sentimental bloke
- Posts: 74096
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 am
- About me: To be serious about gin requires years of dedicated research.
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
When I was a kid, the local library opened late into the evening on Fridays. Every week, my parents and I would go there, get a bunch of books each, and stay up really late reading and drinking cups of tea. That was the wild life in our town in those days...Warren Dew wrote:This is one of the reasons I'm sometimes afraid to buy new books ... or pull old ones off the shelf. I guess it's okay on fridays and saturdays.Rob wrote:I can't tell you how many times I have stayed up all night to finish a book.

It was nice to be part of a family of bookaholics...

Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!
And my gin!
-
- Posts: 32040
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
$149 at Barnes and Noble.JimC wrote:This post has made me want to get one! Better start saving...Coito ergo sum wrote:I have a Nook. Not only is it great in the way you describe, but for now the books are cheaper, and even sometimes free. One can go to google books and get anything out of copyright for free, save it to a .pdf and upload it to the Kindle in seconds. Phenomenal.laklak wrote:Mrs. Lak and I got Kindles last year, it's the greatest invention since the Gutenberg press. I've got 6 books going at the moment I can switch back and forth between with the press of a couple of buttons. I didn't think I'd like it, no book to hold or pages to turn, but it's marvelous. I've always read a lot, but I read even more now that it's so convenient. Lots of free books out there, and the Kindle price is always much cheaper than the hardback or even paperback prices. It's well worth the money, now I want a Nook also.
For $1.99, I bought 50 Sci-Fi classic books, including a host of old Edgar Rice Burroughs, HG Wells, Jules Verne and other timeless classics.
I love the Nook. It's far better than books. The last time I had to move I had about 30 large boxes full of paper books, and my shelves in the house had been overflowing - some had migrated to the basement to dwell in darkness. With the Nook, many books will fit on the device itself, and copies are backed up to my computer, and my computer's backup. They can be stored in .pdf format, and I can surf an entire library, plus google books from the device, and download from Barnes & Noble, while waiting for my plane to take off. I can carry my library into the "reading room" (ahem) in our house, and I can carry my library to the beach. It's actually easier to read the Nook on the beach in the sunlight than a regular book.
It is a marvelous device, and I would opt for the e-Ink non-backlit version for reading purposes. Much easier on the eyes than backlit screens.
I love it.
-
- Posts: 32040
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
- Contact:
Re: Why don't people read more?
I agree - but, I am suspicious of people who don't read books. I can't imagine why people don't.Warren Dew wrote:These statistics may be somewhat misleading. There is plenty of reading material that isn't in book form. Granted reading The New York Times Magazine isn't as good as actually reading the books reviewed in that magazine, but it's hardly illiteracy.Coito ergo sum wrote:1/3 of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.
42 percent of college graduates never read another book after college.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year
I don't know, actually. About the same way as music, I guess.Warren Dew wrote:How do they prevent piracy?Coito ergo sum wrote:They can be stored in .pdf format
You can. Go to google books.http://books.google.com/ebooks/reader?i ... g=GBS.PR17 One of the great advantages of the Nook or the Kindle, however, is the eInk they use. It's MUCH easier to read them because they aren't back lit and they appear muted, like ink on paper. You can get a leather case with a book light included that let's you read in the dark. Plus, you can't usually take a computer to bed to read, as many people like to do. Or, to the beach, for that matter.Warren Dew wrote:
I'd be a lot more interested in digital books if I could read them as PDFs on my computer screen.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests