Why don't people read more?

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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:22 pm

Ian wrote:
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egbert wrote:Why waste energy reading when Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh will read the books for you, and then tell you about them!

:ab: :funny:
The stats don't just cover Beckians and dittoheads. They also cover the MSNBC crowd and those who get the bulk of their news from the Daily Show.
Oddly, it turns out that those who frequently watch the Daily Show tend to be better-informed than people who get most of their news through cable news networks.
But I can't be arsed to find the polls which prove that at the moment.
That wouldn't be BECAUSE they watch the Daily Show.

Frankly, whether someone is "better informed" is a difficult thing to measure. I'd love to see those polls.

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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by .Morticia. » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:36 pm

Why don't people read more?

I found this book to be an interesting insight into the role of literacy in everyday lives

The Uses of Literacy
Richard Hoggart
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This year marks the fiftieth anniversary of the publication of Richard Hoggart's The Uses of Literacy, a key book in the history of English and Media Studies. John Hodgson discusses Hoggart's seminal text, while Trevor Millum reviews his latest book, Mass Media in a Mass Society.

The Uses of Literacy
Richard Hoggart, 1957

In 1954, Dr H.M. King, a past president of the National Union of Teachers, spoke in the debate on the Queen's Speech. King feared that the easy attractions of the television, the film and the comic strip might allow mankind to slip back into a state where there are more illiterates than literates. Richard Hoggart took up this concern with the effect of mass popular culture in his 1957 book The Uses of Literacy. Hoggart went on to found, with Stuart Hall, the Birmingham Centre for Contemporary Cultural Studies, which laid much of the theoretical ground for Media Studies as it exists today. Hoggart was always ambivalent about mass culture, and The Uses of Literacy anticipates many contemporary debates about literacy, media and cultural quality.

In the first part of The Uses of Literacy, Hoggart evokes his youth in the smoking and huddled working-class houses in Leeds. His account conveys dignity and mutual respect in working-class life, qualities the more admirable because of the privations that underpin them. However, the second part of the book frames contemporary urban life as in cultural decline, owing largely to the depredations of the Americanised media. Hoggart uses the term literacy only occasionally, but the implication of the title is ironical: is this what people use their education for? Comic reading by adolescents is, he declares, a passive visual taking-on of bad mass art geared to a very low mental age. It is evident to Hoggart that most of our popular journals have become a good deal worse during the last fifteen or twenty years. We are a democracy whose working-people are exchanging their birth-right for a mass of pin-ups. Hoggart believes that milk bars represent a near aesthetic breakdown in the nastiness of their modernistic knick-knacks, their glaring showiness. Here Hoggart presents his vision of youth within mass culture. The young men wiggle one shoulder or stare, as desperately as Humphrey Bogart, across the tubular chairs, the imagery and references suggesting the influence of Hollywood and (in tubular) perhaps a future of gleaming, jet-propelled artificial life.

From this distance in time, it is easy to see Hoggart's debt to the nostalgic cultural critique that Raymond Williams identified in The Country and the City: decline, it seems, is always a relatively recent phenomenon, and there are always people who can remember a better time. However, Hoggart never quite believes his own fears, as when he points to the romance reader's ability to separate real life from fiction:

@@vote ost working-class wives, though they may read story after story in the magazines, will laugh at the odd neighbour who is so affected by them as to call her child Dawn or April. In large part they laugh because she has carried the stories into real life, and that is a little comic, or even slightly simple.

Despite its title, the book says little explicitly about literacy, although Hoggart implies that it increases the vulnerability of its possessors to the deleterious effects of journalism and pulp fiction. However, at points such as that just quoted, or when describing his dame school educated grandmother's reaction to D.H.Lawrence's portrayal of sex (E makes a lot of fuss and lah-de-dah about it), Hoggart implies the potential of a self-generated critical literacy. This contradicts his fear of the larger part of the population's being reduced to a condition of obediently receptive passivity.

Hoggart saw himself as an emerging figure in the contemporary intellectual world, but he does not represent a simple turning away from baser pleasures in favour of the tastes of a higher class. He presents working-class life as, at its best, demonstrating qualities that transcend class; these are, he believes, the qualities threatened by contemporary popular culture. In this, Hoggart's work is in line with F.R.Leavis's Scrutiny project. Leavis believed that the classless humane values implicit in the English literary tradition would combat technologico-Benthamite culture. This view of the purpose of English teaching is, in a modified form, still very much alive today. The Uses of Literacy represents, at an early stage in the development of modern English and Media teaching, many of the contradictions that still make our subject a rich source of debate and social action.

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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Gonzo » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:39 pm

Don't go near that elevator - that's just what they want us to do... trap us in a steel box and take us down to the basement.


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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by laklak » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:49 pm

Mrs. Lak and I got Kindles last year, it's the greatest invention since the Gutenberg press. I've got 6 books going at the moment I can switch back and forth between with the press of a couple of buttons. I didn't think I'd like it, no book to hold or pages to turn, but it's marvelous. I've always read a lot, but I read even more now that it's so convenient. Lots of free books out there, and the Kindle price is always much cheaper than the hardback or even paperback prices. It's well worth the money, now I want a Nook also.
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Post by Gonzo » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:32 pm

Comic reading by adolescents is, he declares, a passive visual taking-on of bad mass art geared to a very low mental age.
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As a comicbook fan and an amatuer writer/ illustrator, I would disagree with that notion. Many of today's comicbooks are specifically targetted at adult audiences and have complex story arcs. plotlines, and dialogue. Perhaps, at one time, the majority of issues were meant for children, but there was also a great deal of propaganda against the industry's use of violence, sexuality, and themes otherwise deviant to mainstream cultural norms.
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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by .Morticia. » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:55 pm

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Comic reading by adolescents is, he declares, a passive visual taking-on of bad mass art geared to a very low mental age.
Gonzo dislikes this

As a comicbook fan and an amatuer writer/ illustrator, I would disagree with that notion. Many of today's comicbooks are specifically targetted at adult audiences and have complex story arcs. plotlines, and dialogue. Perhaps, at one time, the majority of issues were meant for children, but there was also a great deal of propaganda against the industry's use of violence, sexuality, and themes otherwise deviant to mainstream cultural norms.

graphic novels :tup:

When I lived in Belgium I got right into them.
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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by hiyymer » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:30 am

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1/3 of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.
42 percent of college graduates never read another book after college.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year
http://www.hotforwords.com/2011/04/11/4 ... ce=twitter

These stats are abysmal.

I'm not surprised, though.
That's because they're reading all the free stuff on the internet and would rather chat on rationalia than walk to the library.

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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by JimC » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:35 am

Rum wrote:I think modern teaching methods, the internet, TV and computer games have resulted in mosquito like attention spans for a lot of people and they simply don't have the concentration. Personally unless a book hooks me pretty quickly I tend to leave it these days. A weakness I know, but I am a victim of this even at my age!
I'm a bit like that... Time on Rationalia has reduced the time I have for reading in any case, and, for some reason, I tend these days to re-read old favourites...
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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:48 pm

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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:03 pm

laklak wrote:Mrs. Lak and I got Kindles last year, it's the greatest invention since the Gutenberg press. I've got 6 books going at the moment I can switch back and forth between with the press of a couple of buttons. I didn't think I'd like it, no book to hold or pages to turn, but it's marvelous. I've always read a lot, but I read even more now that it's so convenient. Lots of free books out there, and the Kindle price is always much cheaper than the hardback or even paperback prices. It's well worth the money, now I want a Nook also.
I have a Nook. Not only is it great in the way you describe, but for now the books are cheaper, and even sometimes free. One can go to google books and get anything out of copyright for free, save it to a .pdf and upload it to the Kindle in seconds. Phenomenal.

For $1.99, I bought 50 Sci-Fi classic books, including a host of old Edgar Rice Burroughs, HG Wells, Jules Verne and other timeless classics.

I love the Nook. It's far better than books. The last time I had to move I had about 30 large boxes full of paper books, and my shelves in the house had been overflowing - some had migrated to the basement to dwell in darkness. With the Nook, many books will fit on the device itself, and copies are backed up to my computer, and my computer's backup. They can be stored in .pdf format, and I can surf an entire library, plus google books from the device, and download from Barnes & Noble, while waiting for my plane to take off. I can carry my library into the "reading room" (ahem) in our house, and I can carry my library to the beach. It's actually easier to read the Nook on the beach in the sunlight than a regular book.

It is a marvelous device, and I would opt for the e-Ink non-backlit version for reading purposes. Much easier on the eyes than backlit screens.

I love it.

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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Santa_Claus » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:21 pm

I don't have time to read Books more.

Am too busy wanking over the pictures.
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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:37 pm

People don't read because they have limited time and lots of less demanding pastimes available.

I know that my reading time has dropped to very little since I've suffered from a combination of massive internet frequentation combined to depression induced ADD.
Similarly, my reading time dropped significantly when I had a TV
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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:39 pm

egbert wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
1/3 of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.
42 percent of college graduates never read another book after college.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year
http://www.hotforwords.com/2011/04/11/4 ... ce=twitter

These stats are abysmal.

I'm not surprised, though.
Why waste energy reading when Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh will read the books for you, and then tell you about them!

:ab: :funny:
because I'd have to check the sky if either of those told me it was daytime?
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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:41 pm

Svartalf wrote:People don't read because they have limited time and lots of less demanding pastimes available.

I know that my reading time has dropped to very little since I've suffered from a combination of massive internet frequentation combined to depression induced ADD.
Similarly, my reading time dropped significantly when I had a TV
Most people have plenty of time. Most people are lazy and waste a lot of time.

Frankly, if a person read 10 pages a day while taking a shit in the morning, he could read 12 300 page novels in a year. Drop the pages to 5 and you'd still read 6 300 page books in a year. Most people don't read a single one.

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Re: Why don't people read more?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:48 pm

well, if you got 5 hrs free time in your day (discarding work, sleep, and some basic necessities like meals, a short commute and bathroom time), and you spend 2 of those watching TV, 2 more between your computer and phone, checking messages or facebook, tweetering etc, and possibly listening to music for some time, or engaging in an actual hobby... what's left for books?

and my morning crap, beside the fact it usually happens during office time, rarely takes long enough to read 10 pages... not everybody has that particular time available. and I know lots of people who read papers and mags when they are out of home (like in the transports)
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