Timebomb Game Thread

[Magicziggy]

I would stack the votes on me, Irre, Mantis, Bolero, Diva and UT.
I'm semi-confident of my reads on others.
Tonight, I'd have Charlou protect one of the unarmed players and the vote switcher should reduce the votes of charlou if possible.
The vig should target someone to take them over towards 10.
However, I agree with praying that if scum have a bullet proof vest, it would be unbalancing.
I can't work out how this would work out fairly.

Why UT? That seems out of nowhere.

I have a wifom theory. Irre is looking very scummish on the thread. Almost too scummish. I'm wondering if, since she is already armed, the scum have a plan to have her continue posting scummy comments, so that they have a good opportunity to FOS her. They probably feel like she's not going to be disarmed at all - so, in that case, it doesn't hurt for them to fos her in thread... it gains them town credibility.

I am highly suspicious of MZ.

Also, Gonzo, you have armed another town. I suppose that is okay - because I think it's a good idea to arm everyone, especially those with question marks, and keep around 2-3 people that we feel as certain as we can about.

It doesn't raise any alarm bells at all that Irre is making a point about UT being town?
At least give Irre some credit here.

[Uselesstwit]

first off mz, the bomb role is actually fairly easy, as soon as you had votes on you, you out as a back up seer, or something, town withdraws it's votes and scum nail you to a wall that night. but you didn't out when under vote pressure, you out when there is no pressure on you. do you have any idea how powerful being able to give points to scum could have been either tonight or tomorrow night? It could have been game changing. But fine let's leave it for the debrief.

[Mantisdreamz]

^no, I figured that she already knew his role before she subbed in..

[Uselesstwit]

I would stack the votes on me, Irre, Mantis, Bolero, Diva and UT.
I'm semi-confident of my reads on others.
Tonight, I'd have Charlou protect one of the unarmed players and the vote switcher should reduce the votes of charlou if possible.
The vig should target someone to take them over towards 10.
However, I agree with praying that if scum have a bullet proof vest, it would be unbalancing.
I can't work out how this would work out fairly.

Why UT? That seems out of nowhere.

I have a wifom theory. Irre is looking very scummish on the thread. Almost too scummish. I'm wondering if, since she is already armed, the scum have a plan to have her continue posting scummy comments, so that they have a good opportunity to FOS her. They probably feel like she's not going to be disarmed at all - so, in that case, it doesn't hurt for them to fos her in thread... it gains them town credibility.

I am highly suspicious of MZ.

Also, Gonzo, you have armed another town. I suppose that is okay - because I think it's a good idea to arm everyone, especially those with question marks, and keep around 2-3 people that we feel as certain as we can about.

It doesn't raise any alarm bells at all that Irre is making a point about UT being town?
At least give Irre some credit here.

so you think saying irre would deliberately draw attention to a fellow scum repeatedly like that is giving her more credit? Because scum go out of their way to be associated with each other right MZ?

[divagreen]

Where is Feck?

He has not been posting as much as he normally does.

[Magicziggy]

first off mz, the bomb role is actually fairly easy, as soon as you had votes on you, you out as a back up seer, or something, town withdraws it's votes and scum nail you to a wall that night. but you didn't out when under vote pressure, you out when there is no pressure on you. do you have any idea how powerful being able to give points to scum could have been either tonight or tomorrow night? It could have been game changing. But fine let's leave it for the debrief.

That was never going to happen. Scum had me for the frame up. a la "why no night points on MZ?" they were going to hammer me today. So no opportunity. My guess, they knew to look for a town bomb and I gave off too many obvious signals.

My "scum are on to me" comment meant that they knew I was the bomb and were therefore happy to frame me because the role does not out well. I made a call and played it as well as I could under the circumstances.

This is a no reveal game so, no proof of my role through dying. Get it? No proof from the vote changes, because nobody has put points on me at night. Get it?. No prospects for getting any info because Irre and her crew had me lined up in their sights today. Get it?

crosspost diva and ut

[Magicziggy]

It doesn't raise any alarm bells at all that Irre is making a point about UT being town?
At least give Irre some credit here.

so you think saying irre would deliberately draw attention to a fellow scum repeatedly like that is giving her more credit? Because scum go out of their way to be associated with each other right MZ?[/quote]

So you think she's scum?

[Magicziggy]

messed up quotes. will redo.

[Magicziggy]

so you think saying irre would deliberately draw attention to a fellow scum repeatedly like that is giving her more credit? Because scum go out of their way to be associated with each other right MZ?

So you think Irre is scum?

[Uselesstwit]

I think there are two possiblities with irre. Either she's town in which case you should believe her about what she's saying. or she's scum in which case you should ask why a scum would be saying that about someone. Let's face it if she's one of the people that tend to get viewed early if she were scum would she blatantly associate with a teammate that way?

And yes I think she's probably scum and wouldn't mind making absolutely sure she's fully armed.

[charlou]

I've missed how Gonzo's claim, if believed, clears MZ .. so I'll go back and reread those posts too.

So far I've found this in the same post where Gonzo claimed:

I am sorry to claim this early, but I hope it helps put things in perspective better. In part I thought MZ's accusing me lying about my point value was because he was aware of the Bullet Proof Vest role and needed to verify it somehow - hence edging to see whether I would claim 'ARMED' or not. I believe MZ has told the truth about his role.

I don't consider this to confirm MZ's claim even if Gonzo's claim is true.

[Magicziggy]

And UT..

And if you believe Irre's scum, what does that say about me?
And how is that any different from you?

Do you think there is a Don in this game?

Externalising from your own self interest, from a town perspective, isn;t it safer for town to have you armed as well given the wifom around you, or would you prefer to argue that you should be exempted.

I will add that I have not formed a definitive opinion of you.
But I do sense your actions are more self-preservation than town focussed.
If you make the leap of faith about me being town, you cannot say the same about me.

crosspost charlou

[irretating]

Actually I think I was confused.

[Magicziggy]

I've missed how Gonzo's claim, if believed, clears MZ .. so I'll go back and reread those posts too.

So far I've found this in the same post where Gonzo claimed:

I am sorry to claim this early, but I hope it helps put things in perspective better. In part I thought MZ's accusing me lying about my point value was because he was aware of the Bullet Proof Vest role and needed to verify it somehow - hence edging to see whether I would claim 'ARMED' or not. I believe MZ has told the truth about his role.

I don't consider this to confirm MZ's claim even if Gonzo's claim is true.

I have never considered myself cleared by gonzo's claims, but I do find his proposing it an indication that he's town.

[irretating]

BOOM!