Glazov exposes the Left

[Styrer]

In his recent 'United in Hate: The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror', Glazov annihilates leftist claims in swift fashion. He gets to hitherto untold grips with leftists' sense of alienation from their own society and with their self-hatred; he rips apart their pathological urge to destroy all in pursuit of creating, on burnt ashes, a new utopia. He exposes those in our midst who would venerate still murderous, totalitarian dictatorships under which rule such proponents would themselves be immediately put to death.

The only criticism I've heard of Glazov's book is that it did not, once he'd destroyed the depicable pretentions of the Left, offer anything in its place. Grossly unfair criticism, of course, because that is NOT what his book set out to do. However, I open this self same question, which Glazov may or may not choose to follow up in a future book, to the floor: Now that the Leftist ideology is comprehensively destroyed, what do you think should or will take its place?

Styrer

[Trolldor]

And why not right-wing ideology too? Of course it's biased.

[Styrer]

And why not right-wing ideology too? Of course it's biased.

What will REALLY confuse is reading 'Liberal Fascists', in that case. It's a good book. Though I admit it fits together for me with 'United in Hate'. It shows how the left duplicitously attributed its own faults to the right and got away with it because...

Well, you'll have to read the book to finish. I 'aint gonna give you a freebee, not in a recession, you git.

Best,
Styrer

[Trolldor]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

[Styrer]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

What stark raving lunacy. Are you REALLY saying that DISCUSSION of particular views must needs result in unfairness? And what the fuck are you talking about in regard to LANGUAGE?

Get a fucking grip before you get back to me.

Styrer

[Xamonas Chegwé]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

What stark raving lunacy. Are you REALLY saying that DISCUSSION of particular views must needs result in unfairness? And what the fuck are you talking about in regard to LANGUAGE?

Get a fucking grip before you get back to me.

Styrer

There really is no need to jump down anyone's throat like that Stryer. BAAA made his point without personal insults or rudeness. Can you please do the same? We try to play nice here.

[Styrer]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

What stark raving lunacy. Are you REALLY saying that DISCUSSION of particular views must needs result in unfairness? And what the fuck are you talking about in regard to LANGUAGE?

Get a fucking grip before you get back to me.

Styrer

There really is no need to jump down anyone's throat like that Stryer. BAAA made his point without personal insults or rudeness. Can you please do the same? We try to play nice here.

You couldn't resist, could you, Xamonas? You had to stick your fucking nose in, rather than let BAA answer me in his own good time and in his own way.

Yep, so this place is just the fucking same as all dem dare udders.

So how about I say 'FUCK OFF' and let BAA simply get back to me in his own way and time? Hm?

Have you fuck all else to do than to play 'mom' between grown fucking adults?

Pathetic.

Styrer

[Xamonas Chegwé]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

What stark raving lunacy. Are you REALLY saying that DISCUSSION of particular views must needs result in unfairness? And what the fuck are you talking about in regard to LANGUAGE?

Get a fucking grip before you get back to me.

Styrer

There really is no need to jump down anyone's throat like that Stryer. BAAA made his point without personal insults or rudeness. Can you please do the same? We try to play nice here.

You couldn't resist, could you, Xamonas? You had to stick your fucking nose in, rather than let BAA answer me in his own good time and in his own way.

Yep, so this place is just the fucking same as all dem dare udders.

So how about I say 'FUCK OFF' and let BAA simply get back to me in his own way and time? Hm?

Have you fuck all else to do than to play 'mom' between grown fucking adults?

Pathetic.

Styrer

Perhaps you should learn to act like a grown up adult if you wish to be treated like one. You don't learn do you.

[The Curious Squid]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

What stark raving lunacy. Are you REALLY saying that DISCUSSION of particular views must needs result in unfairness? And what the fuck are you talking about in regard to LANGUAGE?

Get a fucking grip before you get back to me.

Styrer

There really is no need to jump down anyone's throat like that Stryer. BAAA made his point without personal insults or rudeness. Can you please do the same? We try to play nice here.

You couldn't resist, could you, Xamonas? You had to stick your fucking nose in, rather than let BAA answer me in his own good time and in his own way.

Yep, so this place is just the fucking same as all dem dare udders.

So how about I say 'FUCK OFF' and let BAA simply get back to me in his own way and time? Hm?

Have you fuck all else to do than to play 'mom' between grown fucking adults?

Pathetic.

Styrer

You might not be aware of the rules Styrer but insults are not allowed. Considering XC is on the staff here can't you see that it's his job to ask you to be respectful? Maybe you have a problem with decency, if so I don't see your involvement here being in any way beneficial for yourself or for the community in general. 5 posts in and already you're acting rather offensively. What's the point?

Not that I think you'll be here long with such an abrasive attitude but welcome to the forum

[Styrer]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

What stark raving lunacy. Are you REALLY saying that DISCUSSION of particular views must needs result in unfairness? And what the fuck are you talking about in regard to LANGUAGE?

Get a fucking grip before you get back to me.

Styrer

There really is no need to jump down anyone's throat like that Stryer. BAAA made his point without personal insults or rudeness. Can you please do the same? We try to play nice here.

You couldn't resist, could you, Xamonas? You had to stick your fucking nose in, rather than let BAA answer me in his own good time and in his own way.

Yep, so this place is just the fucking same as all dem dare udders.

So how about I say 'FUCK OFF' and let BAA simply get back to me in his own way and time? Hm?

Have you fuck all else to do than to play 'mom' between grown fucking adults?

Pathetic.

Styrer

Perhaps you should learn to act like a grown up adult if you wish to be treated like one. You don't learn do you.

I don't LEARN? What fucking agenda are you carrying beyond 'be nice to everyone, and be damned if you don't'?

YOU have stuck your fucking big nose into a debate I MYSELF started, rushing to the rescue of one I suspect was NEVER in such need.

Really, why can't you just see how things go, rather than butting your arse in and requiring me to expend time and effort on YOU?

If you had even the faintest notion of what my opening post was about, and had responded to it, then I might take you seriously.

As it stands, YOU are the individual who has brought this thread to a pathetic little halt. Well fucking done. If you'd kept your censorious gob shut, then I would simply have been waiting for BAA's own response. Perhaps he would have agreed with you. Perhaps he would have simply had a go back at me.

The spirit of the deleterious RD.net forum is clearly at work here.

Just who the fuck do you think you are? On whose behalf do you dare presume to continue to make unfair pronouncements?

What a fucking place.

Styrer

[The Curious Squid]

Styrer, this place doesn't like censorship, what XC asked you was simply to afford people the courtesy of respect that they deserve. In light of you're abusive manner even after being asked to treat people in the same manner you would like to be treated yourself I'm giving you a temporary suspension until more admins and mods log in to give you some time to calm down.

Civility isn't difficult, learn some manners.

[Trolldor]

el-oh-el.
If it focuses on the left, it's biased. That's what bias is, focusing on one perspective.
Especially the language used - that is not neutral language.

What stark raving lunacy. Are you REALLY saying that DISCUSSION of particular views must needs result in unfairness? And what the fuck are you talking about in regard to LANGUAGE?

Get a fucking grip before you get back to me.

Styrer

It's not a discussion if there's no return, and as he so clearly focuses solely on the left he supplies no return himself.
It's a biased piece, plain and simple.

[Arse]

It's not a discussion if there's no return, and as he so clearly focuses solely on the left he supplies no return himself.
It's a biased piece, plain and simple.

To be fair, it would take two separate books to deal with the Left and the Right in enough detail to do either subject justice.

[Psi Wavefunction]

The Internet -- fucking SERIOUS business...

Srsly, some people need to retake "How to carry on a discussion without pissing everyone off and getting nowhere as a result 101" and get a passing grade for once...

[Trolldor]

You're right, but I don't suspect one will ever be forth coming from the way the book is couched - and I doubt there's even a little qualification in the arguments presented.

"Now that the Leftist ideology is comprehensively destroyed, what do you think should or will take its place? "

It's not 'comprehensively' destroyed, because that takes such a narrow view of what is essentially a non-specific ideology just like any other. There are many forms and views on what 'being left' is, and to say "this IS left" can only come from someone who doesn't care much for any view but their own.
Not to mention from the way the book is couched it seems everything is the fault of the left.

This isn't some nancy-boy look at saying 'everyone has equal views' it's simply the truth that nobody is the 'foremost authority' and there are no guidelines to 'being left', merely suggestions.

"How to carry on a discussion without pissing everyone off and getting nowhere as a result 101"

It's the internet, Psi. How you greet someone will invariably anger someone else.