Ratz Drama Mafia game thread

[charlou]

Zigmen, I'm Gawdzilla, the vigillante. The first three nights MZ hit irre, UT and Adem. The fourth night I didn't hit anyone. Last night I hit Gonzo.

Our last scum is either M or Mantis.

If you look back at the days, I brought up several (!!) times that Gonzo might be the DON.

I wouldn't be doing that if he was my scum partner.

M or Charlou

vote M

Mantis, after that post I went back and read through the game and what stood out was that from day four up until now Zigmen has pulled off a false role claim. I've gone through his posts from day four onwards and commented on where I think he's playing us with bullshit. I hope you will go on and read my comments and see what I see there: Zigmen is the last scum.

[Mantisdreamz]

M and Mantis, I hope you read my posts and Zig's response carefully. Zigmen is now reiterating arguments I've already commented on in my posts. He's also more concerned with buddying up to me, despite trying to make out that I'm an SK, and us lynching one of you because that's how he hopes to win this for scum.

I don't know Charlou... Zig even made mention about how he claimed to be seer at a TR game, and used this as not believing Denny at first. If Zig was making up his role as doc, would he really bring attention to the fact that some may make up their roles (if he was doing just that).

Also, I think he was just trolley tracking on higgs. Which is why he didn't do much about the higgs bandwagon yesterday.

I shouldn't have gone with it, being that I saw how Ob brought so much attention to her... but, I thought the 2 of them as scum, might be able to get away with that.

It is M for sure.

[Mantisdreamz]

Zigmen, I'm Gawdzilla, the vigillante. The first three nights MZ hit irre, UT and Adem. The fourth night I didn't hit anyone. Last night I hit Gonzo.

Our last scum is either M or Mantis.

If you look back at the days, I brought up several (!!) times that Gonzo might be the DON.

I wouldn't be doing that if he was my scum partner.

M or Charlou

vote M

Mantis, after that post I went back and read through the game and what stood out was that from day four up until now Zigmen has pulled off a false role claim. I've gone through his posts from day four onwards and commented on where I think he's playing us with bullshit. I hope you will go on and read my comments and see what I see there: Zigmen is the last scum.

hmm, I'm going to read your posts that you brought up on him.

But... it would be nice to know, Zigmen - who did you protect?

[Mantisdreamz]

^Also, sorry Char - I hadn't read that you outted as vig/SK before you I said 'M or Charlou' in that post

[Zigmen]

Charlou, you're wrong.

And your "hunch" is gonna cost Town the game.

For your theory to be correct, I would have had to have gambled that Town had no Doc, done so nice and early to avoid it looking like I was trying to save my own ass, and for a reason that Scum was in real danger if i didn't pull a gambit to save them.

Or, I may just be the Doc.

M is probably the last Scum.

If no, we get two ways to still win tonight, unless you screw this up, and I will be really pissed if you do.

[Zigmen]

For the final time . . .

If we miss this lynch today, we still have a chance that I may protect one of us from a NK. Id Scum knows who I protected last night, they will know who may be uprotected tonight. I'm Not Gonna Say Who.

So don't ask, and in the future, don't ever ask a Doc who he protected. Sheesh.

[Mantisdreamz]

For the final time . . .

If we miss this lynch today, we still have a chance that I may protect one of us from a NK. Id Scum knows who I protected last night, they will know who may be uprotected tonight. I'm Not Gonna Say Who.

hm, good point.

Char - if you collaborated my posts like that, I bet I'd look pretty scummy too. This game has been really tough in picking out scum.

A couple of days ago, I changed my vote from M to nelli... and I think I really should have stayed with my first instinct. If M is the last scum, I must say she has very good acting skills.

But, I'm just not seeing how there couldn't be a doctor in this game...

[Zigmen]

More importantly, why would Scum claim Doc on Day 3 in a game this size when Scum was still strong?

I'm no stranger to whacky gambits. I admit it.

Buy, i only ever try fake-claims as a last-ditch effort, not an opening move.

The recent TR game where Scum won, I was Scum and claimed Seer on Day 3 so I could live long enough to recruit. My entire team was dead by then. I was counterclaimed by the real Seer, so that's who I recruited. It was indeed glorious.

This game is nothing like that game, and I do not wish to bolster my "gambit" reputation any more than it already is.

[M]

Bloody hell!! I have had to read that lot twice. First time it was plain confusing but now and am still frustrated as much of it does make sense.

However, why are we voting for mayor at this late stage? I thought all we needed to do was nail the last remaining scummers?

One thing that makes me uncomfortable is that when Charlou came out with many lucid point against Zig, he started siding with her. I think there is a theme here.

Unvote mantis

[charlou]

The mayor's vote is worth 1.5.

The fact that Zigmen is trying to side with me, despite trying to make me out to be an SK, just tells me that he wants to appear reasonable. But nothing he's done over the past days has been reasonable at all.

[M]

The mayor's vote is worth 1.5.

Just to be clear..... what?

[charlou]

Okay, there are four of us. If two of us vote for one player, and the remaining two vote for one other player, whichever voted player has the mayor vote on him/her will be lynched, because the mayor's vote is worth an extra half vote.

[charlou]

It only matters if the votes are tied.

[M]

Flippin' 'eck. That matters enormously. I'm assuming I can't vote for myself?

[charlou]

Flippin' 'eck. That matters enormously. I'm assuming I can't vote for myself?

You can.

If you vote yourself mayor and final vote zigmen, I'll vote you for mayor and final vote zigmen, too.