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Re: Radiohead

Post by stripes4 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:55 pm

Agreed. The only thing important about music is that while you're listening to it, you're enjoying it.
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Re: Radiohead

Post by devogue » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:05 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:And 4' 33" is better and more important than all of Mozart's works put together.
Now you're just being silly.
No. Merely pointing out that musical taste is, by its very nature, subjective, in a lighthearted way. :biggrin:

So is any concept of musical 'importance' tbh. Any musician that thinks their music is important needs to get out more. :tea:
Mozart's music is important in that it creates a very critical junction in the history of music. He developed the form of the concerto to a point where the composer/virtuoso performer gained a kind of hallowed awe that has never gone away, even up to the guitar heroes and front men of today. His use of chromatics, musical colour through harmony (listen to the mad harmonies in the wind in his K467 concerto, 2nd movement) and freedom of form within Classical constraints paved the way for Beethoven, Schbert and others to fully realise Romantic notions in music, of the musician as artist.

Ally that romanticism to Mozart's conscious decision as the first internationally important composer to give his operas German libretti rather than the usual Italian and you have the first foundations in place which would lead to the Germanic, mythological operas of Wagner, which had a certain amount of influence in German philosophical and political circles for a wee while.

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Re: Radiohead

Post by stripes4 » Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:07 pm

devogue wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
devogue wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:And 4' 33" is better and more important than all of Mozart's works put together.
Now you're just being silly.
No. Merely pointing out that musical taste is, by its very nature, subjective, in a lighthearted way. :biggrin:

So is any concept of musical 'importance' tbh. Any musician that thinks their music is important needs to get out more. :tea:
Mozart's music is important in that it creates a very critical junction in the history of music. He developed the form of the concerto to a point where the composer/virtuoso performer gained a kind of hallowed awe that has never gone away, even up to the guitar heroes and front men of today. His use of chromatics, musical colour through harmony (listen to the mad harmonies in the wind in his K467 concerto, 2nd movement) and freedom of form within Classical constraints paved the way for Beethoven, Schbert and others to fully realise Romantic notions in music, of the musician as artist.

Ally that romanticism to Mozart's conscious decision as the first internationally important composer to give his operas German libretti rather than the usual Italian and you have the first foundations in place which would lead to the Germanic, mythological operas of Wagner, which had a certain amount of influence in German philosophical and political circles for a wee while.

Abba are just :{D .
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:07 pm

devogue wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
devogue wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:And 4' 33" is better and more important than all of Mozart's works put together.
Now you're just being silly.
No. Merely pointing out that musical taste is, by its very nature, subjective, in a lighthearted way. :biggrin:

So is any concept of musical 'importance' tbh. Any musician that thinks their music is important needs to get out more. :tea:
Mozart's music is important in that it creates a very critical junction in the history of music. He developed the form of the concerto to a point where the composer/virtuoso performer gained a kind of hallowed awe that has never gone away, even up to the guitar heroes and front men of today. His use of chromatics, musical colour through harmony (listen to the mad harmonies in the wind in his K467 concerto, 2nd movement) and freedom of form within Classical constraints paved the way for Beethoven, Schbert and others to fully realise Romantic notions in music, of the musician as artist.

Ally that romanticism to Mozart's conscious decision as the first internationally important composer to give his operas German libretti rather than the usual Italian and you have the first foundations in place which would lead to the Germanic, mythological operas of Wagner, which had a certain amount of influence in German philosophical and political circles for a wee while.

Abba are just :{D .
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Animavore » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:09 pm

Riverdance trumps all :smug:
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Atheist-Lite » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:13 pm

My wife likes Bucks Fizz. Her taste is down-toearth and middle of the road. She believes the earth goes around the sun although she does need reminding.
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Re: Radiohead

Post by devogue » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:14 pm

Animavore wrote:Riverdance trumps all :smug:
Riverdance fucked Ireland. After Riverdance we thought we might be cool. Totally fatal.

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Re: Radiohead

Post by Animavore » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:22 pm

devogue wrote:
Animavore wrote:Riverdance trumps all :smug:
Riverdance fucked Ireland. After Riverdance we thought we might be cool. Totally fatal.
We are cool :smoke: :smug:
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Re: Radiohead

Post by devogue » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:27 pm

Animavore wrote:
devogue wrote:
Animavore wrote:Riverdance trumps all :smug:
Riverdance fucked Ireland. After Riverdance we thought we might be cool. Totally fatal.
We are cool :smoke: :smug:
We're not.

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Re: Radiohead

Post by Animavore » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:28 pm

devogue wrote:
Animavore wrote:
devogue wrote:
Animavore wrote:Riverdance trumps all :smug:
Riverdance fucked Ireland. After Riverdance we thought we might be cool. Totally fatal.
We are cool :smoke: :smug:
We're not.

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Re: Radiohead

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:42 pm

They used to show that on British TV for a while - it was fucking shite. Is Gay Byrne dead yet?
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Animavore » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:45 pm

Not sure. I don't think so. My ma hates him. She used to work in the RTÉ canteen and said they had an assortment of cakes in everyday and Gay Byrne always had to have his chocolate eclair. It was an unwritten rule that you didn't touch his chocolate eclair.
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Re: Radiohead

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:48 pm

Animavore wrote:Not sure. I don't think so. My ma hates him. She used to work in the RTÉ canteen and said they had an assortment of cakes in everyday and Gay Byrne always had to have his chocolate eclair. It was an unwritten rule that you didn't touch his chocolate eclair.
There is definitely an euphemism in there somewhere... :?
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Re: Radiohead

Post by devogue » Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:53 pm

Animavore wrote:Not sure. I don't think so. My ma hates him. She used to work in the RTÉ canteen and said they had an assortment of cakes in everyday and Gay Byrne always had to have his chocolate eclair. It was an unwritten rule that you didn't touch his chocolate eclair.
He's still alive - he's done some pretty good work since leaving TLLS - most recently about religious beliefs of national figures.

I hate/love stories like that. It somehow makes him much, much, much more petty and horrible than f he just shouted at everyone like a cunt.

"That's Mr. Byrne's eclair" :react: :react: :react: :react:

For fuck's sake, I would have ate it every day out of badness. What are they going to do? Fire you for eating an eclair?

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Re: Radiohead

Post by Animavore » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:21 pm

New album's not great.
This is probably the best song on it.

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