Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

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Post by epepke » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:54 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:He has a low tolerance for bullshit.
Unless it's his bullshit.

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Re: Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:57 pm

epepke wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:He has a low tolerance for bullshit.
Unless it's his bullshit.
Well, you doin' better anywhere?
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Post by HomerJay » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:05 pm

Seth wrote: And if the vast majority of Atheists would simply say "Which God? Your version of God? Of course not," it wouldn't be necessary to criticize the unreason and illogic. But they don't. And that's why I provide criticism, in hopes of encouraging Atheists to use their brains and set Reason firmly in her seat, so they don't look like brainless ideological tools when responding to theistic claims.
This is bullshit, it's a shite argument so now you're saying you put out a shite argument to improve the conversations others have.
A wholly unconvincincing bit of posturing from an ego that can't admit they've been found out, dressed up as an insult.

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Post by Seth » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:09 pm

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Seth wrote: And if the vast majority of Atheists would simply say "Which God? Your version of God? Of course not," it wouldn't be necessary to criticize the unreason and illogic. But they don't. And that's why I provide criticism, in hopes of encouraging Atheists to use their brains and set Reason firmly in her seat, so they don't look like brainless ideological tools when responding to theistic claims.
At least you acknowledge that they are nothing more than claims.
I've never maintained they are anything but claims.
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Post by Seth » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:11 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
epepke wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:He has a low tolerance for bullshit.
Unless it's his bullshit.
Well, you doin' better anywhere?
Now it's "comparative bullshit?" That's a topic ripe with irony.
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Post by Seth » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:12 pm

HomerJay wrote:
Seth wrote: And if the vast majority of Atheists would simply say "Which God? Your version of God? Of course not," it wouldn't be necessary to criticize the unreason and illogic. But they don't. And that's why I provide criticism, in hopes of encouraging Atheists to use their brains and set Reason firmly in her seat, so they don't look like brainless ideological tools when responding to theistic claims.
This is bullshit, it's a shite argument so now you're saying you put out a shite argument to improve the conversations others have.
Perhaps. But it only applies to those with the wit to understand, which evidently leaves you out.
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Re: Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:23 pm

Seth wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
epepke wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:He has a low tolerance for bullshit.
Unless it's his bullshit.
Well, you doin' better anywhere?
Now it's "comparative bullshit?" That's a topic ripe with irony.
I don't think your bullshit compares with anybody else's.
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Re: Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

Post by Seth » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:32 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Seth wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
epepke wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:He has a low tolerance for bullshit.
Unless it's his bullshit.
Well, you doin' better anywhere?
Now it's "comparative bullshit?" That's a topic ripe with irony.
I don't think your bullshit compares with anybody else's.
Why thank you. :td: Coming from you, I consider that a high compliment indeed. Nothing warms the cockles of my heart and gives me that little endorphin thrill quite so much as annoying the intellectually challenged.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:38 pm

You may have annoyed yourself, but there's little we can do about that.
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Post by Seth » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:43 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:You may have annoyed yourself, but there's little we can do about that.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
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Re: Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:54 pm

Seth wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:You may have annoyed yourself, but there's little we can do about that.
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
No, it's also a tattoo on your forehead.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:32 am

:lol: This is what happens when trolls troll each other. It's like looking into a mirror and seeing yourself looking into a mirror and seeing yourself looking into a mirror and seeing....
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Re: Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:33 am

rEvolutionist wrote::lol: This is what happens when trolls troll each other. It's like looking into a mirror and seeing yourself looking into a mirror and seeing yourself looking into a mirror and seeing....
Hence your contribution, the icing.
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Re: Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

Post by Hermit » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:06 am

I got news for Myers, and he won't like it: Nothing necessarily follows from atheism, except for a rejection of faith as a substitute for whatever knowledge we can provisionally attain through evidence. The only inevitable result of this is a lack of belief in a god thingy. That's why we have communist, nihilist, humanist and libertarian atheists, among others. There are atheists who are pacifists, and those who are not. Atheists can be opposed to abortion or for it, for or against the death penalty. In fact, PZ, nowhere in your rant is there even a discernible hint as to what all atheists must necessarily have in common beside their rejection of faith-based knowledge leading to their lack of belief in a god, and even there we see differences. For instance, I regard myself as an agnostic atheist. Other atheists feel certain that there cannot be a god. This is not the first time where I got the impression that you have set your mouth in motion before putting your brain in gear.

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Re: Atheist guru PZ Myers gets religion

Post by charlou » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:37 am

I don't think all atheists actively reject faith based knowledge. I'm sure there are plenty of atheists who haven't given any thought at all to faith and/or evidence based knowledge, and plenty of atheists who hold superstitious and speculative assumptions and beliefs.
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