Ratz Drama Mafia game thread

[Zigmen]

I think a mass out is usually a bad idea. And it was suggested before you were out Zig. It causes specials to out. The suggestion made Gonzo seem scummy to me. I have no problem outing my role if that's an issue.

The pro-town thing to do would be to help me sift through the logic I've used, not get defensive.

[Gonzo]

Jerome's contentless vote on me is irratating. It seems like all he's down thus far is make revenge votes without any explanation for his own actions. Seems like an easy way to turn attention away from himself without having to actually explain his suspicions. I'm good with my vote on him for now.

[M]

If you are Town, Scum may rely on the suspicion on you to force Town to kill you. The longer they wait, the more views we will get. Also, in a recruit game, your Town views are becoming less valuable. You really need to strike gold tonight.

Not being funny, but how much use have the views been? This role doesn't seem to have served much purpose so far as I can see.

lol. Do you think that denny's views kill the person he's viewed? That would certainly make the role useless. In a way, I wouldn't put it past AZA to make a warped seer role like that but I don't erally think he did.

No, I meant what information has it provided us?

[M]

Scum cannot leave a game and rejoin as Town. MZ/Charlou is very likely Town.
This would mean Charlou/Contra is also Town.
Jerome is on his Town game. His Scum game is super obvious.
Denny is claimed Seer with no counterclaim. Recruited? It's possible. But he's got to be considered Town.
I'm Town.

Why could MZ and Contra not be scum? I thought MZ was sus a couple days ago (feels like months) but it was refuted satisfactorily then.

What about Jerome's scum game makes it obvious? Just thinking you might be saying this to protect him as fellow scum.

[Mantisdreamz]

Jerome's contentless vote on me is irratating. It seems like all he's down thus far is make revenge votes without any explanation for his own actions. Seems like an easy way to turn attention away from himself without having to actually explain his suspicions. I'm good with my vote on him for now.

Wouldn't a scum make more of an effort to explain their vote?

I'm not sure about anyone really.

I've got my vote on M, but I think I'm going to change that to nelli
unvote
vote nelli

[Gonzo]

Jerome's contentless vote on me is irratating. It seems like all he's down thus far is make revenge votes without any explanation for his own actions. Seems like an easy way to turn attention away from himself without having to actually explain his suspicions. I'm good with my vote on him for now.

Wouldn't a scum make more of an effort to explain their vote?

I've been thinking about it a lot, but it is hard to tell what anyone player would do if they were scum. With Jerome I think he would just STFU and support the easiest possible lynch. Either way I am more convinced that he is a cultist than mafia. Anyway I seriously doubt he has a pro-town role seeing as that he has made no effort at all. If he is town he is being incredibly selfish and unfair.

[Gonzo]

unvote Before my final thoughts.

I think we're down to a half hour or something.

[Contrapposto]

unvote

I just re-read the first 7 pages of Day 1.
I know this doesn't mean that we can't have previously clear townies who are now cult recruits but Gonzo's calling out nellikin on day 1 regarding her mayor vote on charlou rings that Gonzo was at least town on day one and still could be now because suspicion has been cast on him since day 2 - not a good cultist's choice for recruit, imo. Day 1 could have been the only possibility but I don't see Gallstones recruiting someone who had not even spoken before they were banned - this tells me that a recruit had already happened. He also has defended numerous people who I think are town. He expressed protests against the bw on JEROME Day 2 - calling Adem out on it because he felt a vote even for "poor town players" was bad. JEROME is town. He started the bw on oblivion, ffs.

vote: nellikin

my other main suspect is M.

^^these two for scum at least. I think nellikin could be cult as well. Either way, bad news.

[Contrapposto]

I think that i've also figured out who the 'vig' or SK is. I want to collectively discuss which one we think he or she is before I go any further on that though.

[Contrapposto]

Gonzo, I know that JEROME can be extremely unhelpful at times but his overall voting history does not support your claim that he is scum or cult, imo.
Re-read the prior three days. Especially day 2. Cult would be stupid to have recruited him. He always appears too suspicious and town even deli state on lynching him even when he's scum. Now, is that a wise choice when selecting a recruit?

[Contrapposto]

Gonzo, I know that JEROME can be extremely unhelpful at times but his overall voting history does not support your claim that he is scum or cult, imo.
Re-read the prior three days. Especially day 2. Cult would be stupid to have recruited him. He always appears too suspicious and town even deli state on lynching him even when he's scum. Now, is that a wise choice when selecting a recruit?

should say "deliberates"

[DennyB]

unvote Before my final thoughts.

I think we're down to a half hour or something.

CRAP,
I was thinking we have about a bit over 6 hours left.
Can anyone confirm?

Just in case,

Vote M
M has seemed scummy to me since day 1

[Contrapposto]

Regarding my suspicion of M, I am also slightly suspicious of Mantis, not sure about both as a team though.

Still confident about my nellikin vote.

[DennyB]

For what it's worth if I were cult I would have recuited Gonzo.
I think we need to find a scum first though.

[Contrapposto]

It's 11:50am Central Standard Time in the U.S. - six hours behind GMT. I thought we had another six hours. The deadline is midnight Sunday GMT.