Ratz Drama Mafia game thread

[Contrapposto]

nellikin, I can assure you that I am not a recruit. You will have to trust me on this.
I can't speak for tomorrow but today I am town.

I'm hoping that I am mistaken about the number if cultist currently in the game at the moment. I am estimating three total because of yesterday and subsequent night where we didn't get a cultist.
I think we have two scum because the typical number is three in a game this size having a separate cult faction.

I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that we have a watcher. I am also hoping that Denny and Zig are who they say they are.
I'm still utterly suspicious of his outting because it was not an appropriate time to do it. Also, UT's "trollfinder general" role sounds more true to the game flavor than Denny's "seer" claim -that term (seer) in and of itself is rarely used in games.
I Still find it suspicious that both people he viewed just so happened to be NK'ed. I find that to be almost too convenient.

[nellikin]

Okay, so I just trawled through the days in chronological order trying to look at what has happened in view of the deaths we've had so far. This is what I come up with (admittedly, I could be all wrong):

Jerome is looking like the don for me. I think he bussed OB to save his guts.
Mantis and Higgs are next on my list
M I've got as either the SK or cult
Gonzo, I think is cult, possibly Denny too
MZ, Contra and Zigmen look town, as does Denny, but could be cult.

vote Jerome

[Mantisdreamz]

Okay, so I just trawled through the days in chronological order trying to look at what has happened in view of the deaths we've had so far. This is what I come up with (admittedly, I could be all wrong):

Jerome is looking like the don for me. I think he bussed OB to save his guts.
Mantis and Higgs are next on my list
M I've got as either the SK or cult
Gonzo, I think is cult, possibly Denny too
MZ, Contra and Zigmen look town, as does Denny, but could be cult.

vote Jerome

I don't know, Jerome came out with his role name pretty quickly...

[nellikin]

actually he claimed vanilla on day2 without a name. plz check Im posting from phone. may have been day3. certainly before today.

[charlou]

He shouldn't have outed .. he's made himself a clear target ... then we'll lose the lover too, and having read through the game, I think I know who she is ...

nellikin, look up the lovers role at the mafia wiki. Lynch voting Jerome isn't a good idea.

For tonight the doc should know what to do .. I just hope the doc's night action tonight goes through, even if the doc is the scum's nightkill target.

I'm finding denny's story off. denny, you escaped a possible lynch with that story, but as the days have gone by it's holding less and less water.

vote denny

[M]

I'm kinda asking why M apologised to DP. He didn't get lynched, but NKed. Maybe M is the vig/SK?

If I was a serial killer, how likely is it that I'd publicly apologise to the person I'd killed?

I apologised to DP because so far he's the only person I got my teeth into as scum and I got it wrong. What I should have said was "sorry town".

[nellikin]

So Charlou - other thoughts?

[Mantisdreamz]

I'm kinda asking why M apologised to DP. He didn't get lynched, but NKed. Maybe M is the vig/SK?

If I was a serial killer, how likely is it that I'd publicly apologise to the person I'd killed?

Guilty conscience?

[M]

I'm kinda asking why M apologised to DP. He didn't get lynched, but NKed. Maybe M is the vig/SK?

If I was a serial killer, how likely is it that I'd publicly apologise to the person I'd killed?

Guilty conscience?

[Mantisdreamz]

^You never know !


The thing with Gonzo, was that he was viewed as ratz... innocent. He is also the mayor... so the question is, would the cult recruit him? Being that he is mayor, the cult might not want to recruit him, thinking that he might be a likely target for scum -- being viewed and all, and also mayor.

It's still possibly that he could be the don...

[DennyB]

Welcome Charlou! I believe you. I don't think MZ would have voted for Contra if they were both scum - too late to be bussing at this stage. And if you were both cult, that wouldn't be happening either, so I have you down as town. Contra is either town or possibly cult, if you're to be trusted.

I'm kinda asking why M apologised to DP. He didn't get lynched, but NKed. Maybe M is the vig/SK?

Can Denny be trusted as seer? I still think "trollfinder general" may just be a term for "seer". Denny can you please give us the exact description of your position?

unvote

I'm gonna go back and analyse the first few days (again)

I hope you know that I can't give you an exact quote on my pm without being god killed.
Below is where I paraphrased it.

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 84#p760984

I have also explained why i'm still alive as it relates to the doc's claim.
I also hope Zig's dock clame is true. It rings true with the way the events unfolded. Could have been recuited?

[DennyB]

edit: doc claim
damn fingers!

[DennyB]

He shouldn't have outed .. he's made himself a clear target ... then we'll lose the lover too, and having read through the game, I think I know who she is ...

nellikin, look up the lovers role at the mafia wiki. Lynch voting Jerome isn't a good idea.

For tonight the doc should know what to do .. I just hope the doc's night action tonight goes through, even if the doc is the scum's nightkill target.

I'm finding denny's story off. denny, you escaped a possible lynch with that story, but as the days have gone by it's holding less and less water.

vote denny

Unvote
I do understand concerns about me.
I would like to get another view to see what happens

I have a Idea and pm to aza with an ethical question that may put to rest some concerns about me.
All this WIFOM is not good for town.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

unvote Vote Gonzo

[Contrapposto]

He shouldn't have outed .. he's made himself a clear target ... then we'll lose the lover too, and having read through the game, I think I know who she is ...

nellikin, look up the lovers role at the mafia wiki. Lynch voting Jerome isn't a good idea.

For tonight the doc should know what to do .. I just hope the doc's night action tonight goes through, even if the doc is the scum's nightkill target.

I'm finding denny's story off. denny, you escaped a possible lynch with that story, but as the days have gone by it's holding less and less water.

vote denny

Unvote
I do understand concerns about me.
I would like to get another view to see what happens

I have a Idea and pm to aza with an ethical question that may put to rest some concerns about me.
All this WIFOM is not good for town.

Scum or cult do not usually think of, much less express, the need to ask an "ethical question" to the GM regarding their role because they are already lying.
That last statement rings town but let me say that if Denny is scum his statement was a good move to throw some suspicion off him.
Any thoughts, charlou?

nellikin, something about your posts is pinging me. Perhaps it's the appearence of insincerity in your "Im so confussedness" coupled with your expression of some possibilities within a cluster of information while appearing to ignore others. Just a vibe I'm getting.