Ratz Drama Mafia game thread

[Magicziggy]

There's only one "t" in submit by the way.
You can post here anytime.

[Contrapposto]

There's only one "t" in submit by the way.
You can post here anytime.

[Azathoth]

Nobody can spell here. Get over it.

Understood...was actually more annoyed at how difficult it is to submitt at times.
What's the deal with that? Does it have something to do with the mobile application I'm on or is it just normal?

It's just normal

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=19228

Everything is his fault especially bad spelling

[Magicziggy]

Current tally:

DP - 5 (Nelli, Feck, Jerome, Mantis, M)
Feck - 2 (MZ, MZ, Contra)
Zigmen - 2 (Denny, Higgs)
Denny - 0 (MZ, Zigmen)

[Gonzo]

I'm usually a bit overwhelmed with suspicions on Day 3 - and today is no different. I'm having some trouble concentrating at the moment with so many noisey animals/ people/ electronics at the house. I will go back and reread everything again when I can find some peace and quiet... biting my tongue not to scream "STFU, EVARYBODY".

Right now my thoughts are as such: I am not convinced by the DP wagon, but might be missing something in the argument against him- if there is one. That last minute vote change was strange, but I don't think it was incriminating. Seems like he'd make a good out for scum to distract from themselves.

Did anyone here watch/play the latest TR game (Office Space Mafia)?

Similarities:

1) Recruiting
2) Two claimed Seers (I was one of them)
3) Denny followed that game

Summary:

I was Scum in that game. I was offered a recruit action on N3, but found myself on the hotseat, so i claimed Seer to live just long enough to recruit. I was counterclaimed by the real Seer.

The real Seer had real views. My views were intentionally wrong.

Bottom line:

I survived about 4 more days because players accepted the theory that there could be 2 Seers.

I laughed and laughed and laughed.

Vote Denny

Zigmen's attempts at pegging DennyB with all this meta has me thinking he is desperate scum looking for an excuse to get the Seer lynched. He's unvoted since, but I don't know.
vote zigmen for now - subject to change.

I'm still somewhat suspicious of Feck, he was hesistant to vote for anybody yesterday followed by a last minute vote of UT which was pretty meaningless.

I'm also very interested in the Jerome wagon from yesterday. Adem, especially for voting for someone he thought was town.

More to come when I can think.

[Zigmen]

And then I reread the OP and realized there was a tracker. I immediately unvoted off of Denny.

Of the the two players who cannot seem to understand I misread the OP, Higgs seems the most desperate.

Vote Higgs

[Contrapposto]

Going to sleep (that's where I'm a Viking!), will wake up about an hour before nightfall to check on things.
Goodnight.

[Mantisdreamz]

There has got to be one more cult left for sure.

I suppose DP would have bussed oblivion if they were team mates.

So, unvote DP

Zigmen, I feel is town. I was following along with his train of thought, in that maybe Denny was trying to pull a seer claim. It especially seemed convenient that he happened to view UT, who had just been NK'd.

MZ seems like town to me. As well as higgs - who Ob fos'd pretty well. Also, Jerome started the bandwagon on oblivion.


I'm concerned about Contra and Feck, I suppose.


vote Feck

[nellikin]

I'm concerned about you all. I did have a thought about Zig (actually it wasn't my thought but it somehow clicked) that he could be the vig/SK - was there a "soft" outing there in trying to reason that Irre as night-kill was not a scum-kill but a vig. If that is the case, then scum failed to make a kill on night 1 and the vig successfully killed Irre. I think I recall gib discussing this yesterday.

I still have Adem down as scummy for the day1 vote on Irre. He, Feck and gib all thought Higgs were scummy yesterday for advising against the Jerome BW, which swapped to Ob anyhow.

Here's vote vote tally/history (can someone check it please):

DP: 4 (nellikin, Denny vote-unvote, , Feck, Jerome, Mantis vote-unvote, M)
Feck: 3 (MZ, vote-unvote-vote, Contro, Mantis)
Denny: 0 (MZ vote-unvote, Zigmen vote-unvote)
Zigmen: 3 (Denny, Higgs, Gonzo)
Higgs: 1 (Zigmen)

M - why did you place your vote on DP. You said you felt pressured into voting, but I didn't read that, if I recall correctly? Somehow that pinged to me.

I don't really know DP but have heard of his famed scum games and last minute voting does seem something an experienced scum player wouldn't do, unless, as he said, Jerome and OB are both scum and he is too and he didn't have a real choice. But then, why vote at all?

WRT to the Denny seer vs. UT tracker situation, is it normal to get no response if the player you viewed is the NK? I don't know too much about this.

Also, does anyone have any clue how many scum/town/cult/specials we might have? I certainly don't...

[higgs2]

Probably the last time I'll be able to check in. I see there's a revenge vote on me; I'm keeping my vote where it is.

[Gonzo]

Okay reread, as said.

And then I reread the OP and realized there was a tracker. I immediately unvoted off of Denny.

I hadn't seen that you claimed to misread the OP, actually, which does change things. Nor did I know that you thought UT to be the Seer, which I can understand. unvote

Of the the two players who cannot seem to understand I misread the OP, Higgs seems the most desperate.

Vote Higgs

I don't think you realize how confusing your logic was. It looked to me you wanted the Seer dead. You have to admit that your confusion laid way for further confusion.

What you think of the wagons on Feck and DP? What are your reads on the two of them?

[Magicziggy]

Might as well get this right:

DP: 4 (nellikin, Denny vote-unvote, , Feck, Jerome, Mantis vote-unvote, M)
Feck: 3 (MZ, vote-unvote-vote, Contro, Mantis)
Denny: 0 (MZ vote-unvote, Zigmen vote-unvote)
Zigmen: 3.5 (Denny, Higgs, Gonzo)
Higgs: 1 (Zigmen)

To me Oblivion has openly protected Feck and Feck has openly not saved her. That UT

[Magicziggy]

Might as well get this right:

DP: 4 (nellikin, Denny vote-unvote, , Feck, Jerome, Mantis vote-unvote, M)
Feck: 3 (MZ, vote-unvote-vote, Contro, Mantis)
Denny: 0 (MZ vote-unvote, Zigmen vote-unvote)
Zigmen: 3.5 (Denny, Higgs, Gonzo)
Higgs: 1 (Zigmen)

To me Oblivion has protected Feck, and Feck has openly not saved her. That UT vote after the bell, was well, useless. It merely demonstrates he wasn't saving Oblivion from the lynch. It served no other purpose. So Feck is my candidate for Don.

[Magicziggy]

Here's one I made earlier:

Yesterday

Gonzo: Regarding the first time I voted Oblivion:

Really? Oblivion out of anyone has posted the most and has the best track record of scum hunting, imo.
I would like to know what this vaguely stated "big point" is.

We'll put the vote counting to bed shall we?

Oblivion wrote:

wwowho who has votes on feck?

jerome over feck?
It's a thought.

Oblivion's last post knowing she was probably going down.

ok so higgs is still bugging me a bit. ut's lack of participation is odd but iirc he is usually pretty involved when scum.rethinking gib. he seems to be laying down reasons for why he'll survive the night.

I just don't know adem, contra's and gonzo's games well enough. they could easily skate.

She'll have a scum mate in there. And who has she left out. My guess is adem is the one mentioned and Feck the one left out. Although there'll be another one as well. Contra looks good recruit fodder. That vote analysis this morning looked like genuine scum hunting, but not wanting to look back at yesterday when things all changed?

And then Feck after the bell

vote ut

A truly useless vote meant to show he wasn't saving his scum mate?

Scum are really scum hunting since there is a cultist out there. It makes it difficult. For Oblivion to not mention Feck is odd in any summary of scum, even though she was scum.

[Gonzo]

Probably the last time I'll be able to check in. I see there's a revenge vote on me; I'm keeping my vote where it is.

It does look like an OMGUS vote, but to be fair I think Zigmen made an honest mistake.