McCartney's Post Beatles work better than Lennon's

[Azathoth]

Back on the rooftop. There really is no doubt in my mind, as evidenced here, that The Beatles were the greatest pop band who ever existed. And Paul's voice here gives me the fucking shivers

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utter bullshit. Lets take 1965 for an example. They were churning out this mediocre bubblegum tripe



Meanwhile

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[tattuchu]

And look how much The Beatles progressed in only a few short years. It's only further proof of their brilliance. Besides that, I love their early stuff anyway. "I Feel Fine" is a charming little number with superb harmonies. Whereas "My Generation," I find annoying and insufferable, along with most of The Who's output.

[stripes4]

If anyone says anything bad about John Lennon, a pixie dies

[Azathoth]

And look how much The Beatles progressed in only a few short years. It's only further proof of their brilliance. Besides that, I love their early stuff anyway. "I Feel Fine" is a charming little number with superb harmonies. Whereas "My Generation," I find annoying and insufferable, along with most of The Who's output.

OK progression 1968

this is probably the beatles' biggest hit that year



meanwhile



My point is that they have no claim to the status of innovators that they enjoy. They never pushed boundaries just skated nice and safely in their bubblegum envelope

[Feck]

If anyone says anything bad about John Lennon, a pixie dies

Good...... nasty things pixies .

[.Morticia.]

Lennon makes my holiday season so much better, on account of reactionary right wing conservative christian idiots who sing Imagine thinking it's some kind of modern carol while not understanding a single word they are saying.

makes me all warm inside when they sing

Imagine there's no heaven

and

Imagine there's no countries

[.Morticia.]

If anyone says anything bad about John Lennon, a pixie dies

Good...... nasty things pixies .

nooo

Pixies are cool

[Azathoth]

they are a pain in the arse when they get in your stash though

[Mac_Guffin]

Bullshit. I'm not saying Lennon's work was without its embarrassments, but his best was better than Paul's best. Paul's solo career reflected his Beatles career, which was mostly flowery shit (with a few exceptions).

[klr]

Still better than The Beatles, but then again, so's Bryan Adams so that's not saying much.

Now you're just trolling.

I would honestly, given the choice, listen to Bryan Adams. No trolling what-so-ever. I honestly do detest The Beatles that much. I don't know how they conned everyone, and I at least respect them for that, but considering their contemporary equivalent are McFly I'm amazed a boy band managed to get such kudos in a time full of such great music.

Bryan Adams? Quoted for posterity ...

[Animavore]

Still better than The Beatles, but then again, so's Bryan Adams so that's not saying much.

Now you're just trolling.

I would honestly, given the choice, listen to Bryan Adams. No trolling what-so-ever. I honestly do detest The Beatles that much. I don't know how they conned everyone, and I at least respect them for that, but considering their contemporary equivalent are McFly I'm amazed a boy band managed to get such kudos in a time full of such great music.

Bryan Adams? Quoted for posterity ...

Don't quote-mine me. I said I would rather listen to Bryan Adams than The Beatles. That was a dig at The Beatles and how bad I think they are not praise for Bryan Adams. Neither of them I ever listen to in my day today, and I practically do nothing but listen to music all day.

[klr]

Still better than The Beatles, but then again, so's Bryan Adams so that's not saying much.

Now you're just trolling.

I would honestly, given the choice, listen to Bryan Adams. No trolling what-so-ever. I honestly do detest The Beatles that much. I don't know how they conned everyone, and I at least respect them for that, but considering their contemporary equivalent are McFly I'm amazed a boy band managed to get such kudos in a time full of such great music.

Bryan Adams? Quoted for posterity ...

Don't quote-mine me. I said I would rather listen to Bryan Adams than The Beatles. That was a dig at The Beatles and how bad I think they are not praise for Bryan Adams. Neither of them I ever listen to in my day today, and I practically do nothing but listen to music all day.

I can listen to The Beatles (all the good stuff from 1964 onwards) any time. Bryan Adams? Not unless someone tied me to a chair and placed speakers on either side of me. And the thing is: Like a lot of people my age, I used to like Bryan Adams (in a manner of speaking) c. 1983-1985, when his career took off along with the rise of MTV. Since then, I look back and think "what did I ever see in that?" What appealed to me as a teenager doesn't necessarily appeal to me now.

BTW, I had meant to submit the first post last night, but had problems with my internet connection. It was in a saved tab this morning, and I just submitted it without looking at the context again.

[Animavore]

Now you're just trolling.

I would honestly, given the choice, listen to Bryan Adams. No trolling what-so-ever. I honestly do detest The Beatles that much. I don't know how they conned everyone, and I at least respect them for that, but considering their contemporary equivalent are McFly I'm amazed a boy band managed to get such kudos in a time full of such great music.

Bryan Adams? Quoted for posterity ...

Don't quote-mine me. I said I would rather listen to Bryan Adams than The Beatles. That was a dig at The Beatles and how bad I think they are not praise for Bryan Adams. Neither of them I ever listen to in my day today, and I practically do nothing but listen to music all day.

I can listen to The Beatles (all the good stuff from 1964 onwards) any time. Bryan Adams? Not unless someone tied me to a chair and placed speakers on either side of me. And the thing is: Like a lot of people my age, I used to like Bryan Adams (in a manner of speaking) c. 1983-1985, when his career took off along with the rise of MTV. Since then, I look back and think "what did I ever see in that?" What appealed to me as a teenager doesn't necessarily appeal to me now.

BTW, I had meant to submit the first post last night, but had problems with my internet connection. It was in a saved tab this morning, and I just submitted it without looking at the context again.

I can't listen to either

[tattuchu]

And look how much The Beatles progressed in only a few short years. It's only further proof of their brilliance. Besides that, I love their early stuff anyway. "I Feel Fine" is a charming little number with superb harmonies. Whereas "My Generation," I find annoying and insufferable, along with most of The Who's output.

OK progression 1968

this is probably the beatles' biggest hit that year



meanwhile



My point is that they have no claim to the status of innovators that they enjoy. They never pushed boundaries just skated nice and safely in their bubblegum envelope

I don't care much for The Beatles' big hits, "Hey Jude" included. Still, I'd take "Hey Jude" any day over "Born to Be Wild." The latter sounds terribly dated to me, while the former is timeless. To me, the Steppenwolf song is tiresome, yawn-inducing, and ultimately forgettable. "Hey Jude" on the other hand, though being one of my least favorite Beatles songs, blows the other song out of the water. Also, though certainly not virtuoso by any means, The Beatles could actually play their instruments quite well, and they could sing quite well, and with great harmonies. And they could do this even while performing live, so you know they had real talent. That Steppenwolf live performance, on the other hand, sounds like complete shite.
Were The Beatles innovators? I think so. Were they as innovative as everyone makes out, especially by comparison with their contemporaries? I don't know. I was too young at the time to say. But I don't really care. Innovative, not innovative, only slightly innovative, whatever, they were still a great band.

From 1966, only two years after "I Feel Fine":

[tattuchu]

p.s. I guess some people take issue with The Beatles' immense popularity and critical acclaim, and don't think it's deserved. I can understand this. Anything that's hugely popular, I'm automatically suspicious of at the very least. I hated Elvis Presley with a passion growing up, for instance, fucking despised him. He sounded hopelessly old-fashioned to me, couldn't understand what the big deal was. And that fact that everyone talked about him as if he were some sort of god made me hate him all the more.
But as far as popularity or critical acclaim or anything else regarding The Beatles, I honestly don't give a flying fuck. I couldn't care less. I love The Beatles because I think they made great music. The greatest music? Maybe not. So what? Their music spoke to me. It still does. That's all I care about.