A secular debate about eating meat.

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A secular debate about eating meat.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:41 pm

Is it murder? Not murder, but otherwise wrong?

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Or, is it just tasty?

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Post by Millefleur » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:42 pm

It's not tasty, it's fucking nomalicious .
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Post by Thinking Aloud » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:44 pm

Tigers and things should definitely be banned from eating meat.

P.S. I'm glad this is in Atheism and Religion.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:51 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:Tigers and things should definitely be banned from eating meat.

P.S. I'm glad this is in Atheism and Religion.
It's actually a parody thread of "a secular debate about abortion" :biggrin:

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Post by Thinking Aloud » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:53 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:Tigers and things should definitely be banned from eating meat.

P.S. I'm glad this is in Atheism and Religion.
It's actually a parody thread of "a secular debate about abortion" :biggrin:
I know. It's heading for surreal.

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Re: A secular debate about eating meat.

Post by Feck » Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:11 pm

It's difficult to justify having any part of the meat industry ,of course theists can fall back on their superiority to animals ,atheists can't .
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Re: A secular debate about eating meat.

Post by Bruce Burleson » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:40 am

If it tastes good, eat it?

Here's a link to my favorite steakhouse - Cheeves' Brothers, in Temple, Texas, near my home. Enjoy.

http://www.cheeves.com/good_templerestaurant.php

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Re: A secular debate about eating meat.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:04 pm

Feck wrote:It's difficult to justify having any part of the meat industry ,of course theists can fall back on their superiority to animals ,atheists can't .
I think atheists can argue that humans are superior to other animals. We certainly have greater cognitive abilities and a degree of sentience not shared by any other animals. An atheist could argue for a nature-given superiority, rather than a god-given superiority.

Also, atheists could argue that humans, whether or not superior, are omnivorous creatures by way of evolution. If we start with the premise that humans are animals, we can argue that since other animals are carnivorous and omnivorous, there should be no inherent reason why humans couldn't also be omnivorous or carnivorous. If a lion can eat meat, then why can't a human?

It's actually an argument from superiority that is made by PETA and other vegetarian groups. They are suggesting that we are to be held to a higher standard than other animals due to our sentience - our ability to control our behaviors. We can "choose" what we eat, which is something other animals can't do. That is at the heard of vegetarian arguments, isn't it?

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Re: A secular debate about eating meat.

Post by FBM » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:18 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Is it murder? Not murder, but otherwise wrong?

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Or, is it just tasty?
The chick in the foreground package is just asking for it. Hawt.
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Re: A secular debate about eating meat.

Post by Millefleur » Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:32 pm

Feck wrote:It's difficult to justify having any part of the meat industry ,of course theists can fall back on their superiority to animals ,atheists can't .
I bought chicken from the supermarket yesterday as the butchers was closed, I felt dirty :worried:
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Post by sandinista » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:55 pm

Feck wrote:It's difficult to justify having any part of the meat industry ,of course theists can fall back on their superiority to animals ,atheists can't .
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Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:54 am

I like eating meat and my body's designed to run on it as part of a balanced diet.

The meat industry is a totally different issue. Morally, it's easy to argue against its' very existence. On the other hand, could individuals within society function if they had to hunt or keep their own animals for food?
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Post by sandinista » Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:11 am

AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:I like eating meat and my body's designed to run on it as part of a balanced diet.

The meat industry is a totally different issue. Morally, it's easy to argue against its' very existence. On the other hand, could individuals within society function if they had to hunt or keep their own animals for food?
hmm funny, I don't like eating meat and my body is not designed to run on it as a part of a balanced diet.
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Post by dj357 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:48 am

Until the point where the entire globe can be provided with low-cost meat substitute that does not depend on prematurely ending the lives of free and self-aware animals we will have no other alternative but to do as the rest of the animal species due and derive our required energy from the bodies of other animals. It's unfortunate and once we can move away from it there will be an untold decrease in the amount of suffering in the world but until we reach that point we do everything we can to minimise the suffering that animals must experience.
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Re: A secular debate about eating meat.

Post by lordpasternack » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:22 pm

There's no reason why most of us can't go veggie already, dj - except that we like eating meat, and are used to it, and it's easy and convenient…
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