Monopoly Game Thread

[The Curious Squid]

@Squid .. don't worry mate I'm not offended by the truth

[The Curious Squid]

I'm about to go get booze and get hammered IRL so doubt I'll be back on tonight (sober at any rate)

Giving it further thought I don't think DP is lying but I'm still not convinced by MZ sidling up to OB.

At the risk of looking like a complete twat I'm going to keep my vote on Feck, I honestly think he's scum where as I'm just wary of the others.

Vote Feck

[oblivion]

assuming you guys don't lynch me, we should also discuss who I should kill tonight. It may make sense to think of the lynch, kill and MZ's view together, in terms of making unknowns known.

I'm finding myself reluctant to pick someone for lynch or NK which is odd. I usually want to help set town's direction when I'm a known indie. I think it's because of all the suspicion earlier, though.

anyway, vote Squid on the basis that gib's vote had the most impact on him.

[Feck]

Ok so if we assume that Squid is lynched ...what does his innocence or not tell us about other players ?

it might be more effective to lynch another player ...if it gives us more idea of who to kill and view at night ????

[oblivion]

he's a candidate for don, due to his repeatedly asking me to view him yesterday. learning if he's the don either completely clears charlou and mantis, or it keeps them as question marks.

[oblivion]

that's my reasoning, anyway. but if there's a lynch that gives us more information about other players, I'm all for it.

I'm (oddly enough) quite short on sleep today, so I may not be firing on all cylinders.

[Mantisdreamz]

2 vanilla scum, 1 don,
1 doc, 1 seer, 8 vanilla town,
and a serial killer.

That should be fairly ok balance wise.

That's how I see it as well.

So far there has been no counter claim for a seer or doc. Being that everyone has checked in, and no one at this point is going to hold back on their role, so there would have been a counter claim.

If that's the case then. Ob, I know you have made this list that leaves (from my perspective) - Irre, Nelli, Squid, Feck and Charlou.

Charlou brought up the MZ/Ob conspiracy, and I don't think she has let it go yet. Have to take a look back and see. I think Irre has accepted it. Nell and Squid are both iffy on it and have both recently mentioned it.

So in there there's probably 2 scum. Irre pressured Feck at the beginning, I'm thinking they would not be a team. Squid and Feck have been at each other, so not them. I'm not entirely sure about Nelli and Charlou. Going to look back at previous reactions.

[Mantisdreamz]

And at the end of the other day, it was between higgs and Nelli for me. I ended up switching to higgs because I thought that she looked more scummy. She drops in for a fly by vote, and at the beginning of the day, she came in and completely latched on to Oblivion's reasoning. Which looks like a convenient thing to do if you are scum (and would know that Ob is town).

[Mantisdreamz]

After reading Day 2, this is my sum up:

Charlou excusing Nell for her questions.

Irre fosing about everyone.

Squid is dumbstruck to why he is being voted for, and in the process says that: "Higgs, Mantis, Charlou, Irre, MZ and Oblivion!" jumped on the Squid is scum bandwagon. Doesn't say a lot, I suppose. Later in the thread, adds Gib as looking scummy.

Gib mentions that Nelli might be a good pick for SK. Gib says he finds Feck's post satisfactory. Also in reference to the Feck, Squid thing - he says he has come to a ground halt on it.

And then the rest of the thread is Ob outting. Feck conversing a bit about it. Squid calling out to be viewed. Feck saying that Squid should be killed. Irre in wonderment about Charlou coming in and voting Ob.


Going to have a think about it. I don't really see Irre as being in the clear either. Irre & Nell? Charlou & Squid? Though gib mentions that Nell might be the SK. Don't really think he'd do that as a scum team mate.

[oblivion]

i want to think about this another way. the tr way.

at tr scum often ignore each other at best and fos or bus each other at worst. I'm going to go back and look at who he didnkt mention or negged.

[oblivion]

Day 1

1.Charlou
2.Feck

Feck, you are showing townish posts now. unvote feck

Feck, you seem to be saying that you think Jynx is town but would like to get rid of him anyway? I'm the first to admit that he's a pain in the arse but shouldn't we be looking for scum before we start pruning the dead wood?

It's working well here (UK ) .I'm getting from hitting submit back to the thread in less than a second .

it's kinda slow to load for me

3.Nellikin
4.MZ

There's more WIFOM here than at Sideways themed tour of Santa Ynez Valley.

Well it's much harder from scum to play your game isn't it.
Normally you cut throught the WIFOM and pick on some random post that takes your fancy and latch on.

What does that mean?

What does that mean?

You know Jynx'x game style. For the past few games, he picks on a post, comdemns it as scummy, latches on and doesn;t let go.
He's locked into that now. The minute he stops doing it, he's scum.

So from a scum perspective, he's got a much harder task to make this work imo.

I'm not saying he's scum. I'm just saying. I've been saying it for two games now.

I didn't ask for a side order of wifom with that.

MZ i well know you can communicate better than that.

5.Squid
7. Higgs

What does that mean?

You know Jynx'x game style. For the past few games, he picks on a post, comdemns it as scummy, latches on and doesn;t let go.
He's locked into that now. The minute he stops doing it, he's scum.

So from a scum perspective, he's got a much harder task to make this work imo.

I'm not saying he's scum. I'm just saying. I've been saying it for two games now.

What is the deal with this? It doesn't even make any sense.

+1

8. Irre
quote="gib"]

I find it suspicious that higgs comes along and follows on oblivion's reasoning (which seems like a real stretch to me), and puts a vote on for me. Could be that you're not feeling well higgs (hope you get better)... but, still.

Yes, I'm not seeing the big deal. Seems no matter your response, you were going to ping. KIngmaker memories, I guess

Aza, yes I thought the MZ/Jynx thing could be a put on. But dammit if they are just doing their silly town stage show for us all, it lets scum sit back and snigger.

Feck, you are showing townish posts now. unvote feck

Maybe a little pressure on Jynx will help resolve the Jynx/Ziggy sideshow...
vote Jynx

Something about this post, it has an odd feel, somewhat contrived. Bookmarking for future reference.[/quote]

9. Jynx

The case against Jynx seems to be that he's playing his normal town game. That's just silly isn't it?

Yep When challenged threaten , the ultimate flail ! you are getting yourself lynched Jynx , If you are town scum will be sad to see you go .

What have I "threatened"?

You'll either do the right thing or the wrong thing. It's no skin off my nose.

This is the funniest and irrational I've seen you all yet. I think losing and being tricked so badly in the last game is getting to everyone. But let's look at who wasn't tricked - who was it that picked up on Ziggy and pushed for a lynch early 'til he was blue in the face trying to warn you all.

And now you're all doing it again, it's like history repeating itself. You're just going to sit there and let Ziggy bullshit you, cast doubt and run rings around you 'til it's too late.
You couldn't make this shit up.

Jynx you've said you'd your piece and it's you that's repeating yourself. 'He was scum in the last game' is not a meaningful argument.

Maybe a little pressure on Jynx will help resolve the Jynx/Ziggy sideshow...
vote Jynx

10. DP

btw DP hadn't logged on for nearly a day when i checked earlier. been a really good turnup rate today tho

DP....

11. Mononoke
12. Mantisdreamz

Anyway

Vote Mantis

seeing as there might be something to the suggestion that mantis doesn't want the mayor job

13. oblivion/ MCJ

Oh, and Gib.. are you going to post more than comments about MZ and Jynx?

I have a few thoughts about oblivion's game but nothing too exciting.

I have a few thoughts about oblivion's game but nothing too exciting.

Still, I'd like to hear them.

I'd like to hear them too. I think her game is different. I can't pinpoint it.
Another perspective would help.

Yes, I think it is, too. I've got to be careful not to trolley track, though. The more people commenting, the more info we have.

DP....

I've played a few games with oblivion now - when was the last time she was scum btw? I'm not sure i've even seen her scum game. The point is that i always get the day1 feel about her you are describing. And she's never actually scum.

That doesn't put her in the clear. But when i saw you fossing her it clicked with me. So my gut says oblivion is town here, so far anyway. If she is scum then this is going to be a key game for her on ratz. If she can hide that from all of us i'd be surprised.

btw DP hadn't logged on for nearly a day when i checked earlier. been a really good turnup rate today tho

14. azathoth





I duplicated some bits where he talked about more than one player in a post. Hope I found all of those.

day 2 coming up.

[Feck]

Both Charlou and Irre unvoted me when I was pushing Jynx ?

[oblivion]

1.Charlou

Why Charlou?

in reply to this -

guys... try Charlou, Squid and and Nelli .

PIng?


2.Feck

No I wouldn't knowing Jynx would flip town and knowing if MZ was town or scum it would be a silly move .

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

No I wouldn't knowing Jynx would flip town and knowing if MZ was town or scum it would be a silly move .

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Ok ,if I was scum I would know which side both MZ and Jynx were on so I would have stayed clear ,if MZ is scum then voting Jynx puts me in the firing line if MZ is town why would I bother to vote either of them as town VS town on day one is what scum want .

Ok i'm nearly there. The part i have bolded makes perfect sense to me now. That just leaves the other bit. Sorry to go all OCD on you but it's bugging me that i don't know what you mean.

(applies to MZ too.

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

Ok ,if I was scum I would know which side both MZ and Jynx were on so I would have stayed clear ,if MZ is scum then voting Jynx puts me in the firing line if MZ is town why would I bother to vote either of them as town VS town on day one is what scum want .

Ok i'm nearly there. The part i have bolded makes perfect sense to me now. That just leaves the other bit. Sorry to go all OCD on you but it's bugging me that i don't know what you mean.

Ok when I voted for Jynx there were so few votes out Jynx could have convinced enough people to lynch MZ ,if MZ had flipped Scum and I had been pushing for a lynch of Jynx it would have made me look very very scummy .

got it thanks.

Ok so if you had to vote now who would you lynch today?

My quizzing of Feck over his post that i found ambiguous has seems to have spiralled out of control in Squid's mind. Personally i found Feck's answer/explanataion satisfactory.

I take that as newness. But could be scum or town newness.

I'm 50:50 between squid and feck at the mome.

so am I, pretty much. I haven't igured out which is bothering me more.

I'm backing off you for the moment. I have detected some trolly-tracking tendencies in my reactions to your posts yesterday.

But, I'm wary. I wondered if I was trolly-tracking in the kingmaker game and you skated until day 4. A recent example. not the only example.

I don't like either of the top vote getters. although I think Nelli's last post was a litle squiff, I tend to go easy on n00bs because they almost always look scummy.

It's time to vote, though.

3.Nellikin
4.MZ

gib, you didn't vote yesterday, which is not like you. Any reason?

I had some issues connecting to the board - Was thinking about joining the Jynx bw but couldn't see it mattered much, kinda got pissed off with trying to refresh the page, refreshed myself with too much beer instead and fell asleep.

(but wait...didn't he vote for Jynx on day 1? I think so. maybe he unvoted.)

5.Squid

My quizzing of Feck over his post that i found ambiguous has seems to have spiralled out of control in Squid's mind. Personally i found Feck's answer/explanataion satisfactory.

7. Higgs

Lemme have a reread of her posts.

Right now i've ground to a halt on the Feck or Squid thing.

potted Higgs:

day 1

didn't feel well,

followed me on questioning what MZ meant http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 19#p737519

asked dumb question abouit game design

day 2

this one's interesting:

So charlou wasn't around much, nor dp is that correct? Oblivion fos'd irre but I'm not sure why. Maybe because she was so frenetic at the very biginning of the game? There's the if Jynx is town then MZ is scum meme, but I'm not sure I buy that, they seem to just like to post to each other. Presumably mantis has viewed town unless we hear otherwise, if there is a seer and if they viewed mantis and if she's not a don. and that's all I got for now.

then the weird confusion over sarcasm which looked genuine to me

then

Theres so little to go on; I'm voting squid for jumping on the feck bw.

So it looks to me very much like nothing substantial until day 2, kinda fits in with not being well i suppose. What do you make of the post i just designated as 'interesting'?

8. Irre

I'm really not getting much of a gut feel on the oblivion and irre bickering. Re-read it today and it kinda echos the MZ Jynx thing.

btw did you understand the bit about being thrown from a train, that as only bit of day 2 that seems weird to me so far

10. DP
12. Mantisdreamz
13. oblivion/ MCJ

I'm really not getting much of a gut feel on the oblivion and irre bickering. Re-read it today and it kinda echos the MZ Jynx thing.

btw did you understand the bit about being thrown from a train, that as only bit of day 2 that seems weird to me so far

Why do we think we have a vig and not a serial killer? If there's a chance it's a SK then Nelli would be a good fit.

I take that as newness. But could be scum or town newness.

I'm 50:50 between squid and feck at the mome.

so am I, pretty much. I haven't igured out which is bothering me more.

I'm backing off you for the moment. I have detected some trolly-tracking tendencies in my reactions to your posts yesterday.

But, I'm wary. I wondered if I was trolly-tracking in the kingmaker game and you skated until day 4. A recent example. not the only example.

I don't like either of the top vote getters. although I think Nelli's last post was a litle squiff, I tend to go easy on n00bs because they almost always look scummy.

It's time to vote, though.

[oblivion]

based on going through all that, I'm kinda leaning toward Charlou and Nelli.

Gib got right into the middle of the town/town brouhaha between MZ and Jynx.

He white knighted me to Irre.

He got right in the middle (and arguably set Squid off) of the Feck/Squid thing on day 2.

Charlou was a major topic of discussion during the game day on day 2, and he had nothing to say about that until after nightfall, in his last post of the game.

Nelli was also a big topic of conversation - enough to draw her out and get her posting more. And he offered no opinion on that.

hm.

unvote

[oblivion]

Both Charlou and Irre unvoted me when I was pushing Jynx ?

what does that suggest to you?