Who's the shittest philosopher?

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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Blondie » Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:46 am

Robert_S wrote:
Anthroban wrote:Anyone who says Nietszche is a clueless fucktard. :biggrin:
What about anyone who says "Nietzsche is a clueless fucktard"?

Ditto. :)

Nietzsche is one of the greats.

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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Robert_S » Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:52 am

Anthroban wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Anthroban wrote:Anyone who says Nietszche is a clueless fucktard. :biggrin:
What about anyone who says "Nietzsche is a clueless fucktard"?

Ditto. :)

Nietzsche is one of the greats.
He's not too bad, but he seems like quite an excitable boy sometimes.
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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by SevenOfNine » Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:55 pm

Ilovelucy wrote:Dennett! Actually, he's not the shittest, just the most overrated and popular among many that don't know a lot philosophy. I heard a great line about him on a "Philosopher's Zone" podcast. "And Dennett, who's I agree, one of the more clever characters in the second half of the 20th century and today, Dennett sort of dances a complicated dance around the ultimate nature of things. He doesn't like to be caught doing metaphysics really."

The real shittest has to be Alain de Botton, mainly because I don't like being told how I can be happy with my poverty by the son of a Swiss banker.
Dennett is one of the few philosophers who doesn't indulge in intellectual masturbation. Wittgenstein is the type species for the shittiest philosopher. It is somewhat fashionable to badmouth philosophers who constructively criticism science, rather than realize that those philosophers who irrationally reject science are truly anti-intellectual. Their tiny brains just can't parse reality and they want others to share their pain and confusion. Or should I say delusion. Most don't have the talent to come up with original ideas, so they just bring out hopeless monsters -a sort of academic trolling.
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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Ilovelucy » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:09 pm

SevenOfNine wrote:
Ilovelucy wrote:Dennett! Actually, he's not the shittest, just the most overrated and popular among many that don't know a lot philosophy. I heard a great line about him on a "Philosopher's Zone" podcast. "And Dennett, who's I agree, one of the more clever characters in the second half of the 20th century and today, Dennett sort of dances a complicated dance around the ultimate nature of things. He doesn't like to be caught doing metaphysics really."

The real shittest has to be Alain de Botton, mainly because I don't like being told how I can be happy with my poverty by the son of a Swiss banker.
Dennett is one of the few philosophers who doesn't indulge in intellectual masturbation. Wittgenstein is the type species for the shittiest philosopher. It is somewhat fashionable to badmouth philosophers who constructively criticism science, rather than realize that those philosophers who irrationally reject science are truly anti-intellectual. Their tiny brains just can't parse reality and they want others to share their pain and confusion. Or should I say delusion. Most don't have the talent to come up with original ideas, so they just bring out hopeless monsters -a sort of academic trolling.
Which philosophers irrationally reject science? Wittgenstein doesn't. Wittgenstein was trying to express something very difficult, that is, the very limits and restrictions of language itself. I wish more people would admit that they simply don't understand some philosophers, rather than assuming its intellectual masturbation because it doesn't make sense to them. Most people only know of post modern philosophy through the Sokal hoax and a chapter in a Dawkins book. I personally don't find Dennett to be particularly original or ground breaking. I also think that he is guilty of his own flavour of obfuscation (his dismissal of Mary's Room springs to mind), and of making strawmen of opposing positions.
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Post by Blondie » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:28 pm

Ilovelucy wrote:
SevenOfNine wrote:
Ilovelucy wrote:Dennett! Actually, he's not the shittest, just the most overrated and popular among many that don't know a lot philosophy. I heard a great line about him on a "Philosopher's Zone" podcast. "And Dennett, who's I agree, one of the more clever characters in the second half of the 20th century and today, Dennett sort of dances a complicated dance around the ultimate nature of things. He doesn't like to be caught doing metaphysics really."

The real shittest has to be Alain de Botton, mainly because I don't like being told how I can be happy with my poverty by the son of a Swiss banker.
Dennett is one of the few philosophers who doesn't indulge in intellectual masturbation. Wittgenstein is the type species for the shittiest philosopher. It is somewhat fashionable to badmouth philosophers who constructively criticism science, rather than realize that those philosophers who irrationally reject science are truly anti-intellectual. Their tiny brains just can't parse reality and they want others to share their pain and confusion. Or should I say delusion. Most don't have the talent to come up with original ideas, so they just bring out hopeless monsters -a sort of academic trolling.
Which philosophers irrationally reject science? Wittgenstein doesn't. Wittgenstein was trying to express something very difficult, that is, the very limits and restrictions of language itself. I wish more people would admit that they simply don't understand some philosophers, rather than assuming its intellectual masturbation because it doesn't make sense to them. Most people only know of post modern philosophy through the Sokal hoax and a chapter in a Dawkins book. I personally don't find Dennett to be particularly original or ground breaking. I also think that he is guilty of his own flavour of obfuscation (his dismissal of Mary's Room springs to mind), and of making strawmen of opposing positions.
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I find Dennett rather dull TBH. I struggle through his books, and not because they're difficult. :P
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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Berthold » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:53 pm

Seraph wrote:Lenin and Zedong misapplied the lot of them.
Nitpick: In Chinese names, the first word is the family name.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:10 pm

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable.

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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:12 pm

Berthold wrote:
Seraph wrote:Lenin and Zedong misapplied the lot of them.
Nitpick: In Chinese names, the first word is the family name.
That's right. It's "Tsao"....GENERAL Tsao....
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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by mistermack » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:00 am

Jesus Christ. I mean, Jesus Christ!!

What a useless fucker he was. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to philosophise, you should do in in the clearest language possible. Especially if you're talking to iron-age people.
All this mystic stuff and talking in riddles is just a smokescreen. Blessed is he who hasn't seen, and yet believes? Blessed are the fuckin gullible then.
And if you can turn water into the best wine, get stuck in!! Do some for your mates. Don't just do it once, at a wedding.
That's my philosophy.
So Jesus is definitely the shittiest.
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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by lsdetroit » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:05 am

Im surprised no one has said Alvin Plantinga yet. reading his shit just makes me pissed. Jumping through metaphysical hoops to justify superstitious bullshit. bleh.
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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Azathoth » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:09 am

that is like asking which of these turds is the most turdlike?

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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Blondie » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:11 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:Immanuel Kant was a real pissant who was very rarely stable.
:lol:

Do you presume to have a complete understanding of his philosophy?

I am amused.

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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by locutus7 » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:11 am

Worst: Plantinga (I was beat by the the chap above whose name in Yelow I can't read). You cannot define god into existence, especially the traditional christian one.

Semi-serious Best: Woody Allen, who wrote the immortal existentialist quip "Life is divided into the horrible and the miserable."

Serious Best: Hume, who Ought to be, and Is.
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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Blondie » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:12 am

Azathoth wrote:that is like asking which of these turds is the most turdlike?

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The expected response of the uneducated and ignorant.. :smug:

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Re: Who's the shittest philosopher?

Post by Blondie » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:15 am

locutus7 wrote:
Semi-serious Best: Woody Allen, who wrote the immortal existentialist quip "Life is divided into the horrible and the miserable."
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