Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

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Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:52 pm

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... -mild.html

Skip the docs with their snakeoil cures and go to the pub. The pub is were you'll find a genuine support group. :tup:
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Tero » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:54 pm

Yeah, I basically do not support a lot of them type of drugs. Pain, fine, other stuff in the head, not so great a solution.

I do have a bottle of xanax. I take it on plane trips, but have not started freaking out yet.

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Other things that help the "mildly" depressed (it doesn't feel mild, it's just not the "classic" depression):

--religious faith, belonging to a warm and loving church, church suppers and discussion groups, particularly one that expects you to volunteer and do something to help others. (teaching Sunday school is good)
--getting outside in nature (cubicle life sucks)
--sunshine every day (no sunblock as this prevents Vitamin D absorption
--going away on holiday (escape horrible family, get more sun, escape cubicle)
--getting a dog (my kid, who was severely disturbed when young, got out of the hospital and ran to hug the family golden and said "You are the best psychiatrist ever...)
So where is our loving atheist community, in real life? Not to say you folks are not family, but...

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Post by Cunt » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:17 pm

Tero wrote: So where is our loving atheist community, in real life? Not to say you folks are not family, but...
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Tero » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:38 pm

So I have to go to one of them meets? I could just call up Godzilla, but that fire breathing, well, I am not sure what to expect...

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Post by Cunt » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:39 pm

Why would you have to go to 'one of them meets'? Couldn't you just hire a prostitute where you are and have her (or him) hold up a monitor in front of their face with Rationalia on it?
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by M » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:44 pm

I reckon they work for me and I don't consider myself a 'seriousl' case. Once my brand and dosage of drugs was right, I noticed I was much calmer and remain so. :dunno:
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Post by JOZeldenrust » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:29 am

Like with many psychological problems, the symptoms of depression could well be caused by various very different causes. That's one of the big problems of psychology: many pathologies are only defined by their symptoms, not by the underlying mechanisms. Different types of depression may have totally unrelated causes, making medication an effective treatment for some, but not for other types of depression.

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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Pappa » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:30 am

MCJ wrote:I reckon they work for me and I don't consider myself a 'seriousl' case. Once my brand and dosage of drugs was right, I noticed I was much calmer and remain so. :dunno:
It is also possible the effect could be psychosomatic.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:58 am

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MCJ wrote:I reckon they work for me and I don't consider myself a 'seriousl' case. Once my brand and dosage of drugs was right, I noticed I was much calmer and remain so. :dunno:
It is also possible the effect could be psychosomatic.
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Ayaan » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:02 am

JOZeldenrust wrote:Like with many psychological problems, the symptoms of depression could well be caused by various very different causes. That's one of the big problems of psychology: many pathologies are only defined by their symptoms, not by the underlying mechanisms. Different types of depression may have totally unrelated causes, making medication an effective treatment for some, but not for other types of depression.
I was thinking the same thing. Depression is expressed mentally, physically, and emotionally to varying degrees in different people and at different times, it is not hard to see how depression may have several different causes, so that can be treated by medication and some that can't.
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:55 am

Placebos are so powerful that a depressent like a glass of wine or two can lift you out of feeling miserable. :td:
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Trolldor » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:59 am

Except no.
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by DRSB » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:05 am

Not for a severe depression.

For mild cases the same calming effect can be achieve via alternative means, one of the best is a gym membership.

This study came out at the end of 2009 already.

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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Atheist-Lite » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:09 am

Deersbee wrote:Not for a severe depression.

For mild cases the same calming effect can be achieve via alternative means, one of the best is a gym membership.

This study came out at the end of 2009 already.
I think I'll take the placebos and leave the heavy lifting for more deserving cases. ;)
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Re: Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

Post by Trolldor » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:18 am

Eurgh... the 'Gym Membership' is rubbish. It's regular exercise which releases endorphins, but that isn't a cure. It is one factor in effective management, on it's own it's useless. I've read those studies too.
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