Western industrial civilization is the ORIGINAL cargo cult!Charlou wrote:DaveDodo007 wrote:I was thinking of earlier times. It's not reason that will replace god it's the entertainment industry DVD's computer games, music and sports. So much better than itchy church pants to quote Homer.Gawdzilla wrote:If church was the only place to do that I'd be inclined to give it some credence. But people spend most of their time outside the church, even in highly religious countries.DaveDodo007 wrote:I think American religiousness is due to the fact that America is a nation of immigrants and people like to mix with like minded people. As the church was the focal point of society for Americans they gravitate towards that. This left America behind the other Western democracies, I think the youth of America are now rejecting religion in large numbers except for the new immigrants who have the same problem as the earlier immigrants.![]()
I think you may be right .. the 21st century version of a cargo cult.
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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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I would have thought the original cargo cult was John Frum?
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John Frum Albuquerque.The Mad Hatter wrote:I would have thought the original cargo cult was John Frum?
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Hardy har ha.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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Seriously. He probably introduced himself as "John, from ..." but the locals couldn't pronounce that part, so they threw it away.The Mad Hatter wrote:Hardy har ha.
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"Obama in a statement Saturday night said he had spoken with Holbrooke's wife and told her that he and First Lady Michelle Obama are praying for him."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/nyreg ... g.html?hpw
"America is the most religious modern country in the world, and this religiosity gap has been widening in recent years."
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/nyreg ... g.html?hpw
"America is the most religious modern country in the world, and this religiosity gap has been widening in recent years."
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From that link:
And a total of 16% of Americans accept real evolution—purposeless and unguided by God. That’s up from 9% in 1982, and may be a real trend.
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Of the reminder, 83% have no idea what evolution means but say they don't believe it because they're supposed to.FBM wrote:From that link:
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It's easier to have an opinion than it is to read a book, eh?Gawdzilla wrote:Of the reminder, 83% have no idea what evolution means but say they don't believe it because they're supposed to.FBM wrote:From that link:
And a total of 16% of Americans accept real evolution—purposeless and unguided by God. That’s up from 9% in 1982, and may be a real trend.
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FBM wrote:It's easier to have an opinion than it is to read even a comic book, eh?

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And they've been pushing to teach creation/ID in classrooms?Gawdzilla wrote:Of the reminder, 83% have no idea what evolution means but say they don't believe it because they're supposed to.FBM wrote:From that link:
And a total of 16% of Americans accept real evolution—purposeless and unguided by God. That’s up from 9% in 1982, and may be a real trend.
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Which, in comparison to evolutionary theory, any moron can understand.Charlou wrote:And they've been pushing to teach creation/ID in classrooms?Gawdzilla wrote:Of the reminder, 83% have no idea what evolution means but say they don't believe it because they're supposed to.FBM wrote:From that link:
And a total of 16% of Americans accept real evolution—purposeless and unguided by God. That’s up from 9% in 1982, and may be a real trend.
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And which evolutionary theory would that be Mr. Amonious Seque? Group selection? Nature - Red, tooth and claw? Punctuated equilibrium? ... Need I go on?Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Which, in comparison to evolutionary theory, any moron can understand.Charlou wrote:And they've been pushing to teach creation/ID in classrooms?Gawdzilla wrote:Of the reminder, 83% have no idea what evolution means but say they don't believe it because they're supposed to.FBM wrote:From that link:
And a total of 16% of Americans accept real evolution—purposeless and unguided by God. That’s up from 9% in 1982, and may be a real trend.
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