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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:48 pm

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stripes4 wrote:I know I'm banging on, but it's actually THE POINT!!
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To be honest I'm quite surprised this discussion carried on past Gawd's initial posts. I always thought it was only the right wing religious nutters that kept the death penalty going in America.

You live and learn. :sighsm:
You reject a rational solution for emotional reasons. That's something right-wing religious nutters do.
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by stripes4 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:52 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Psychoserenity wrote:
stripes4 wrote:I know I'm banging on, but it's actually THE POINT!!
:hugs:

To be honest I'm quite surprised this discussion carried on past Gawd's initial posts. I always thought it was only the right wing religious nutters that kept the death penalty going in America.

You live and learn. :sighsm:
You reject a rational solution for emotional reasons. That's something right-wing religious nutters do.
I anticipated THIS one!! Emotional reasons are what most, in fact, everyone's lives really come down to. We're not robots. We're folks. :brood:
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:53 pm

stripes4 wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Psychoserenity wrote:
stripes4 wrote:I know I'm banging on, but it's actually THE POINT!!
:hugs:

To be honest I'm quite surprised this discussion carried on past Gawd's initial posts. I always thought it was only the right wing religious nutters that kept the death penalty going in America.

You live and learn. :sighsm:
You reject a rational solution for emotional reasons. That's something right-wing religious nutters do.
I anticipated THIS one!! Emotional reasons are what most, in fact, everyone's lives really come down to. We're not robots. We're folks. :brood:
Well, if I give you that we're humans, will you give me that we act irrationally at times?
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by stripes4 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:53 pm

AND it's not simply emotional anyways. It is rational to recognise that a flawed legal system cannot be given the ultimate responsibility of taking a life. So boo sucks to you.
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawd » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:54 pm

Is Gawdzilla actually agreeing with me in this thread? I am utterly shocked and speechless. Normally, he just drops in and says I'm a troll.

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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by stripes4 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:54 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
stripes4 wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Psychoserenity wrote:
stripes4 wrote:I know I'm banging on, but it's actually THE POINT!!
:hugs:

To be honest I'm quite surprised this discussion carried on past Gawd's initial posts. I always thought it was only the right wing religious nutters that kept the death penalty going in America.

You live and learn. :sighsm:
You reject a rational solution for emotional reasons. That's something right-wing religious nutters do.
I anticipated THIS one!! Emotional reasons are what most, in fact, everyone's lives really come down to. We're not robots. We're folks. :brood:
Well, if I give you that we're humans, will you give me that we act irrationally at times?
Yes we do. But thats what the law was invented for. To police irrationality with reason and fairness. not to kill people for vengeance.
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawd » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:54 pm

stripes4 wrote:AND it's not simply emotional anyways. It is rational to recognise that a flawed legal system cannot be given the ultimate responsibility of taking a life. So boo sucks to you.
American extrajudicial murders disagree with you.

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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:55 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:You reject a rational solution for emotional reasons. That's something right-wing religious nutters do.
Actually I don't reject it for emotional reasons at all; I reject it because, from my understanding of the way modern societies work, it generally makes things worse for everybody, compared with other solutions that we now have.
[Disclaimer - if this is comes across like I think I know what I'm talking about, I want to make it clear that I don't. I'm just trying to get my thoughts down]

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Post by stripes4 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:55 pm

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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:55 pm

Gawd wrote:Is Gawdzilla actually agreeing with me in this thread? I am utterly shocked and speechless. Normally, he just drops in and says I'm a troll.
I had not idea what you wrote in the OP, I normally don't read your posts.
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:57 pm

stripes4 wrote:Yes we do. But thats what the law was invented for. To police irrationality with reason and fairness. not to kill people for vengeance.
And it's irrational to allow a killer more chances to kill. There's no vengeance in this, it's the best way to handle some criminals.
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:58 pm

The death penalty is the preserve of corrupt, totalitarian states and corrupt, priest-ridden states. It fails.

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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:59 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:You reject a rational solution for emotional reasons. That's something right-wing religious nutters do.
Actually I don't reject it for emotional reasons at all; I reject it because, from my understanding of the way modern societies work, it generally makes things worse for everybody, compared with other solutions that we now have.
Warehousing people is humane and kind, isn't it? 50 years in a prison cell for a crime of passion as a youth. So much better than executing the person, he gets to die each dawn for eighteen thousand, two hundred and fifty days.
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by stripes4 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:59 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Yes we do. But thats what the law was invented for. To police irrationality with reason and fairness. not to kill people for vengeance.
And it's irrational to allow a killer more chances to kill. There's no vengeance in this, it's the best way to handle some criminals.
As I've already stated, my murderers are in a high security prison, chained to power generating bikes. yah boo sucks. :brood:
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Re: The Death Penalty is a Good Thing

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:00 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:The death penalty is the preserve of corrupt, totalitarian states and corrupt, priest-ridden states. It fails.
Your proof of this? That it is only the realm of the above? That a sane society can't remove a killer from their midst?
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