Carnivale Game Thread

[Uselesstwit]

If you're talking about the vig thing, I still think that's the right call. The lack of info about what kills to consider scum and which not to has made a huge wifom mess for scum to hide in. Trying to clear up that mess is in town's favor not scums.
If you're talking about my comment about your comment. That was all you and if it was a role outing it was half assed and would have made you a target for scum no matter what. All you did there is create more of a mess for town. In fact it looks more like muddying the waters than anything else.

[DennyB]

Good night all

[Magicziggy]

The waters are very murky as it is. A lot of interpretation and guesswork is required.
However my scenario around Feck's death is possible if not probable from my POV.
If I'm a scum target, then so be it. It will ensure the vig get's another hit.

Half assed, maybe.

[oblivion]

Night fall is in approx. 2.5 hours.

[charlou]

What did Mantis enable then?
It's easy to ignore this stuff.

That's a really good question. I never did understand that. Could it have been the vig?

Or the cult leader/recruitment? If there is a three team scenario, is it possible that Mantis's death left irre without recruitment ability? If that's the case and irre recruited on night 0 then there's a single cult member with no ability and is effectively now a vanilla player with no-one to communicate with and whatever win condition the cult has?

This fits in well with how the night actions have played out. It doesn't explain irre viewing as town though if she's not the scum leader ... that's the only thing that keeps me scratching my head about this scenario.

[charlou]

That's assuming irre had a night 0 recruit .. it may have been a failed attempt if she tried to recruit scum.

[higgs2]

I think the irre viewing as town is one point in favor of scum/cult being the same, then maybe she would be the don/cult leader. And as someone said it's strange we've not gotten any "scum". But scum would not kill their don. I keep going round and round. I really don't know what to think. And I usually do know what to think even if it's wrong.

[charlou]

This is the only thing I can think of right now ... is there a paranoid or insane seer type role in mafia? Would that be a flavour twist in this game?

[charlou]

The mafia cop: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cop

[higgs2]

Yeah but the seer was killed and it didn't say anything about paranoid or insane. Would we be told that on her death?

[charlou]

From the wiki:

Sanity may or may not be revealed upon death, according to the mod's discretion.

[charlou]

If Zigmen/Sofie were anything other than a sane cop/seer, it would give too much away to reveal that on his death, especially so early in the game I would think.

This is the only explanation I can think of in a three team scenario for why irre viewed as town.

[Uselesstwit]

I know the feeling higgs, I've convinced myself about a half dozen times today on the 2 versus 3 team question. We just don't have enough information.

[Magicziggy]

The wiki link says cult leader is thrid party alignment.

[higgs2]

Okay, well I've got to get the kiddos to bed. Don't know if I'll be able to check in before nightfall. But I'm still confused. I wonder if Oblivion reads those wiki links? This is a p. confusing game right now.