Carnivale Game Thread

[Callan]

I am guessing that scum had the option to kill OR recruit.
Irre killed Feck on night 1.
On night 2, her action was blocked - either she tried to kill and her target was protected OR she recruited - we'd know about neither of these.
The same goes for night 3.
It could also be that she tried to recruit but failed because her choice was a special and therefore invulnerable to recruiting.
I think she started with herself and maybe one other - Squid with his Night 0 PM? Who knows?
At any rate, we may very well be dealing with fewer scum than we fear.
UT, why haven't you voted?
Not voting is apparently a scummy thing to do...

[charlou]

This makes 2 votes to Denny and 2 to Higgs, by my count.

My count is

Denny 2 (Charlou, Callan)

higgs 1 (DennyB)

MZ had voted for higgs but unvoted.


Of the eight players left, five have no current vote.

[Magicziggy]

UT, asking for the vig to out is scummy. Why would they?

You and Irre did a pretty good job tag teaming on Higgs on day 2.

I'll be back to vote after sleep.
I'm confused as fuck about the set up. Two teams three teams?
I'm leaning back towards 2 teams, which then has Higgs as town.

[Uselesstwit]

No it isn't mz, it's how we figure out whether or not we have two or three teams. If the vig did not kill irre last night we have three teams. If he did, he can just keep his mouth shut. That would mean that the scum night kill was blocked twice in a row. and since higgs and denny were blocked those two nights that is something that would really point to scum wouldn't it? a vig outing to give us two scum would be more than a fair trade IMO. Obviously it's up to them, but I really suspect that the colt kills are the scum nk, which means our vig was a one shot and is now a vanilla town. If I'm right nothing would be lost in his outing, and we really do need some info today. It would also give us a cleared town if there wasn't a counter claim.

Callan there are still 11.5 hours in this day round, so I wasn't in a hurry. If you want it right now it would be denny.

vote denny

[Callan]

Irre's demand yesterday for the vig to kill Higgs, together with her posts today clears Higgs for me.
UT, I find myself wondering with MZ why you are so eager for the vig to out...? Surely there can be no good, pro-town reason for that?
I'm going to stick with my vote on Denny.
If I'm awake before 6am (gods and cats forbid!) then I may reconsider if any better lynchee arises.
I think we are down to the wire, folks.
If we don't lynch a scum today, I fear we are buggered.

[DennyB]

No it isn't mz, it's how we figure out whether or not we have two or three teams. If the vig did not kill irre last night we have three teams. If he did, he can just keep his mouth shut. That would mean that the scum night kill was blocked twice in a row. and since higgs and denny were blocked those two nights that is something that would really point to scum wouldn't it? a vig outing to give us two scum would be more than a fair trade IMO. Obviously it's up to them, but I really suspect that the colt kills are the scum nk, which means our vig was a one shot and is now a vanilla town. If I'm right nothing would be lost in his outing, and we really do need some info today. It would also give us a cleared town if there wasn't a counter claim.

Callan there are still 11.5 hours in this day round, so I wasn't in a hurry. If you want it right now it would be denny.

vote denny

UT makes alot of sence in this post. (except voting for town)
I still think there are 3 teams. I was viseted last night by a delightfully amourous and skilled visitor. I assumed this means I was blocked.
What I have colored in your post above is the flawed logic. If Higgs and I are both scum I would have not put the first vote on her. Since I'm town I still think Higgs is scum.
I think the colt is the NK for scum. Fast and efficent as apposed to the garrot.
MZ, Either you are not town or you made a brilliant observation regarding the 3 team game and Higgs is scum. With all your effort put into your deductions so far I have you as the top of my town list so far.

My vote will stay with higgs for this reason. If town lynches me then odds of us (town) winning are greatly reduced


Something happend with my laptop with the order of the post so I hope this comes out correctly.........
If not I will correct......

[DennyB]

Looks good, I'll leave it.

[DennyB]

Irre's demand yesterday for the vig to kill Higgs, together with her posts today clears Higgs for me.
UT, I find myself wondering with MZ why you are so eager for the vig to out...? Surely there can be no good, pro-town reason for that?
I'm going to stick with my vote on Denny.
If I'm awake before 6am (gods and cats forbid!) then I may reconsider if any better lynchee arises.
I think we are down to the wire, folks.
If we don't lynch a scum today, I fear we are buggered.

And this is why you don't want to lynch me.
FOS you
I'm not sure you have been playing a pro town game!

[Uselesstwit]

honestly I'm not getting why people don't want the vig to out. He's still alive, probably unrecruitable, and probably vanilla town now. So he would be the only cleared town we have. On top of that he could settle the scum team with recruit or the scum team and cult team debate. That's balanced by what? what does town lose if he out's? The only reason for him not to out is if he still has night actions and that would mean that we need to lynch the people that were blocked.

[higgs2]

I am still suspicious of gib. He just seems like the perfect recruit. Is there some reason he seems clear to you all?

[higgs2]

UT, I'm afraid the vig will get nk'd which is why I've been discouraging outing. If there is still a vig.

[higgs2]

Denny does seem a bit desperate, I agree with whoever said that.

[Uselesstwit]

I thought gib did really well yesterday, he looked very town and fearless.
I could be wrong about the vig but if he is harmless the scum would never shoot him when there is still a blocker and who knows what else in towns arsenal.
I agree about denny, he does seems to be getting nervous.

[higgs2]

I missed the post about a one shot vig. Is that what you're thinking? I haven't played many games with those so I didn't think of it. If that were the case it might help us to narrow things down.

[Uselesstwit]

how else do you explain having two kills night one but not the other two nights? Either that or he was recruited but I don't think it's likely he could have been.