Carnivale Game Thread

[Magicziggy]

Higgs has just asked Charlou how many in her cult team, to see if they have the numbers. Charlou's reposnse about being lonely would indicate that she's on her own.

It looks like 4 town vs 4 non town.

At least we know now.

[Magicziggy]

I'm off to watch spurs v chelsea. Back later.

[higgs2]

Higgs has just asked Charlou how many in her cult team, to see if they have the numbers. Charlou's reposnse about being lonely would indicate that she's on her own.

It looks like 4 town vs 4 non town.

At least we know now.

I did?

I mean I'm p. cool if I got that info out of her but wat

[Magicziggy]

vote higgs
before I forget

[higgs2]

If there is a cult and scum, what woud cult's win condition be? Parity the same as scum? So would scum and cult be hunting each other as well as us? I'm starting to go back to the notion that scum = cult. And Scum had a cult leader who could do the scum recruits. THat is a lot more normal. I'm not set in that but we have so much wifom going on.

In any case cult or scum is anti town and we need to route them out.

[DennyB]

If there is a cult and scum, what woud cult's win condition be? Parity the same as scum? So would scum and cult be hunting each other as well as us? I'm starting to go back to the notion that scum = cult. And Scum had a cult leader who could do the scum recruits. THat is a lot more normal. I'm not set in that but we have so much wifom going on.

In any case cult or scum is anti town and we need to route them out.

Yep, Thats why you must go.

We need to hear from Gib, Callen, UT and Squid.

[higgs2]

Easy for a cultist to start looking for scum I'm sure.
You were unlucky to have outed before the extent of the cult was really known.
Denny's post made me think again. I had you top of my town list.

And that's where I should stay. I have no idea what it is about any of Denny's posts that is so convincing. I'm certain this is a strategy between the two of you, aiming to turn my FOS and vote on Denny against me.

Denny's posts made me rethink.
Cults are difficult to form because you have to recruit the right targets.
You were ripe for the picking. An outed non-special.
For town, I'd suggest that you're not high priority.
Far more important to find scum.

So are you saying that if cult and scum are different, cult is less dangerous? What do you suppose their win condition is?

[DennyB]

Easy for a cultist to start looking for scum I'm sure.
You were unlucky to have outed before the extent of the cult was really known.
Denny's post made me think again. I had you top of my town list.

And that's where I should stay. I have no idea what it is about any of Denny's posts that is so convincing. I'm certain this is a strategy between the two of you, aiming to turn my FOS and vote on Denny against me.

Denny's posts made me rethink.
Cults are difficult to form because you have to recruit the right targets.
You were ripe for the picking. An outed non-special.
For town, I'd suggest that you're not high priority.
Far more important to find scum.

So are you saying that if cult and scum are different, cult is less dangerous? What do you suppose their win condition is?

The way I read it is there are fewer cult than scum. scum needs to go first! Then we go after the cult.

[charlou]

If there is a cult and scum, what woud cult's win condition be? Parity the same as scum? So would scum and cult be hunting each other as well as us? I'm starting to go back to the notion that scum = cult. And Scum had a cult leader who could do the scum recruits. THat is a lot more normal. I'm not set in that but we have so much wifom going on.

In any case cult or scum is anti town and we need to route them out.

Yep, Thats why you must go.

higgs must go because she wants to rout out the anti town players?

[DennyB]

If there is a cult and scum, what woud cult's win condition be? Parity the same as scum? So would scum and cult be hunting each other as well as us? I'm starting to go back to the notion that scum = cult. And Scum had a cult leader who could do the scum recruits. THat is a lot more normal. I'm not set in that but we have so much wifom going on.

In any case cult or scum is anti town and we need to route them out.

Yep, Thats why you must go.

higgs must go because she wants to rout out the anti town players?

No, she must go because she is scum.

[Magicziggy]

unvote

I'm reconsidering my position on the number of teams as well. It's bloody confusing.

[Callan]

OK.
I think the three teams/cult/scum thing is a blind alley - there is only one anti-town team and it was lead by irre - now happily deceased.
On the basis of today's posts alone, I'm inclined to favour Higgs as Town.
Charlou also seems pro-town in her scum-hunting.
Gib and Squid...too quiet to call, though I do hope Gib is Town, if only because I'd like to be right about SOMETHING apart from having FoSsed irre.
UT is also disturbingly quiet today - if he were Town, I'd hope he would be giving us much more of the benefit of his wisdom.
On the whole, I think I must Vote Denny as his posts today have a tinge of desperation, and because he's exactly the person I'd have chosen to recruit if I'd been irre.

This makes 2 votes to Denny and 2 to Higgs, by my count.
I hope Higgs will not go, as on today's posts I've gone from her being a mystery to being pretty sure she's Town. Not certain, mind...

[Uselesstwit]

Sorry callan, it's only 10 am here and I was up late last night.

For two teams to exist it would mean that irre could not have successfully recruited more than once. That seems really unlikely in the 3 or 4 night actions she would have had. If she had recruited more than that a three person scum team would have reached parity with the remaining town team today. Unless they have an unusual win condition. I'm wondering if irre just had a single recruit and the scum team started out with 2 instead of three.

[Uselesstwit]

As for today, higgs is looking much better in my mind. I still think char looks town, but mz is right she would have been prime recruiting material, if she were able to be recruited.
Callan just made a really good post but the not voting thing from yesterday still has me concerned.
Gib I'm still thinking is town, he looked really good yesterday. Dp really looked good yesterday as well so I'm thinking we need to look at that vote some more.

Ghat/DP (Denny, Squid, Callan, MZ)

I'd bet there are one maybe two scum in there. I thought denny looked bad enough yesterday to vote for him. Squid could be scum but he looks town, but he's doing pretty well for his first game and if he has no mentor he might be getting mentored by teammates. Callan worries me, but I'm kinda leaning towards town atm. MZ could also be scum and I think he's looking a little off today.

[Uselesstwit]

also on the very slim chance our vig wasn't a one shot vig and most of the night kills hove been his. I'd like him to come out only if the last two night kills were his. If they were the scum kills remain silent since you would have no useful info. If they were yours that means that the scum kills were blocked and we need to know that since it doesn't look like we have a doc.

It would also solve once and for all whether there were one or two scum teams, since obviously scum didn't kill irre if there is only one team.