Don't Sleep, there are snakes

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Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Lozzer » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:53 pm

Considering buying the book by Daniel Everett, is it worth it? They sound fascinating, and I'd like to use them as an ethnographic example in my upcoming anthropology exam. How much of the book is simply a biography? I need an account of the Piraha culture more than anything else.
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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Pappa » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:55 pm

It's a great book. I highly recommend it.

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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Lozzer » Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:58 pm

Pappa wrote:It's a great book. I highly recommend it.
:td: Sweet!

What's their religious perspective, by the way? I know they rejected Christianity due to its irrelevance, but I've heard they have a hardened belief in spirits. I mean this in terms of opposites, do they have good V evil represented in the little myth that they have?
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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Pappa » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:11 pm

The anti-Chomskian rant gets a bit tiring at times, but otherwise it's excellent.

The religious take is interesting. They won't believe anything exists or happened unless they either saw it themselves or it was seen by a person they know (so mythology is out). They also have an interesting "shit happens" take on life. Get it and read it. It's interesting from an anthropological perspective, but also interesting to see the process of a missionary abandoning his faith due to theological conflict.

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Post by Lozzer » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:12 pm

Pappa wrote:The anti-Chomskian rant gets a bit tiring at times, but otherwise it's excellent.

The religious take is interesting. They won't believe anything exists or happened unless they either saw it themselves or it was seen by a person they know (so mythology is out). They also have an interesting "shit happens" take on life. Get it and read it. It's interesting from an anthropological perspective, but also interesting to see the process of a missionary abandoning his faith due to theological conflict.
Awesome, but opposites, do they have good V evil typical in every culture?
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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Twoflower » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:26 pm

Lozzer wrote:
Pappa wrote:The anti-Chomskian rant gets a bit tiring at times, but otherwise it's excellent.

The religious take is interesting. They won't believe anything exists or happened unless they either saw it themselves or it was seen by a person they know (so mythology is out). They also have an interesting "shit happens" take on life. Get it and read it. It's interesting from an anthropological perspective, but also interesting to see the process of a missionary abandoning his faith due to theological conflict.
Awesome, but opposites, do they have good V evil typical in every culture?
I read it over the summer, they don't really have a good v evil thing, they are more pragmatic. If someone does something wrong or evil they are shunned from the rest of the group.
I'm wild just like a rock, a stone, a tree
And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Lozzer » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:39 pm

Twoflower wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Pappa wrote:The anti-Chomskian rant gets a bit tiring at times, but otherwise it's excellent.

The religious take is interesting. They won't believe anything exists or happened unless they either saw it themselves or it was seen by a person they know (so mythology is out). They also have an interesting "shit happens" take on life. Get it and read it. It's interesting from an anthropological perspective, but also interesting to see the process of a missionary abandoning his faith due to theological conflict.
Awesome, but opposites, do they have good V evil typical in every culture?
I read it over the summer, they don't really have a good v evil thing, they are more pragmatic. If someone does something wrong or evil they are shunned from the rest of the group.
Does this contradict Strauss' structuralist premise?
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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Twoflower » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:42 pm

Lozzer wrote:
Twoflower wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
Pappa wrote:The anti-Chomskian rant gets a bit tiring at times, but otherwise it's excellent.

The religious take is interesting. They won't believe anything exists or happened unless they either saw it themselves or it was seen by a person they know (so mythology is out). They also have an interesting "shit happens" take on life. Get it and read it. It's interesting from an anthropological perspective, but also interesting to see the process of a missionary abandoning his faith due to theological conflict.
Awesome, but opposites, do they have good V evil typical in every culture?
I read it over the summer, they don't really have a good v evil thing, they are more pragmatic. If someone does something wrong or evil they are shunned from the rest of the group.
Does this contradict Strauss' structuralist premise?
Read the book and find out.
I'm wild just like a rock, a stone, a tree
And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
And it's beautiful, that's life

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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by charlou » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:54 pm

Intrigued .. will look this one up.
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Re: Don't Sleep, there are snakes

Post by Ronja » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:07 am

A couple of months ago I spent almost two hours in the non-fiction section of the Academic Bookstore, choosing between this and four other books, but had to leave it then due to not wanting to spend all too much. I may ask for it for my birthday, or get it myself later. I am pretty sure I will enjoy it - the alternating between autobiography, describing the Pirana culture, pondering about religion and describing the Pirana language seemed fascinating. There is a lot about the language in it - if linguistics isn't your cup of tea, you should be able to skip those passages tolerably easily.
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