Curious strength question...

[Dory]

Okay, so next month I'm due to do a strength test to get my gym instructor certificate.

I've been greatly wondering lately, is the fact that I was born a dude gonna give a direct advantage over the other females in this test? I DO have the hormonal balance of a typical female, but my bone structure, and maybe amount of muscle fibers are gonna give me a direct advantage regardless of my hormonal balance. I'm pretty sure it's true, I'd just like to get a more professional point of view, or even opinions are okay, for anyone who'd like to comment... really wanna know the answer...

[GenesForLife]

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[GreyICE]

As I understand it, most competitions use something on the order of 2-6 years post transition as the point where a female athlete may compete post-transition.

So that's probably a solid general guideline. At that point the advantages will be minimized.

[FBM]

Hmm. Depends a lot on your classmates, I'd say.

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[Dory]

As I understand it, most competitions use something on the order of 2-6 years post transition as the point where a female athlete may compete post-transition.

So that's probably a solid general guideline. At that point the advantages will be minimized.

Yes, it would lead to that conclusion, but I'm trying to find more direct information than hypothesizing based on legislations....thanks though

[Santa_Claus]

Not scientific, but any Khatoeys the Missus used in her business dealings. or encountered were pre-op and regarded as strong as men. with the bonus of usually being messed up in the head from self medication as well as tranny drugs. a useful combination in the right circumstances. and cost effective. and disposable. Of course a somewhat self selecting pool.

I would be very surprised if you did not cream 90% on chin ups!

[GreyICE]

As I understand it, most competitions use something on the order of 2-6 years post transition as the point where a female athlete may compete post-transition.

So that's probably a solid general guideline. At that point the advantages will be minimized.

Yes, it would lead to that conclusion, but I'm trying to find more direct information than hypothesizing based on legislations....thanks though

Look, due to a different thread on a different forum, I ended up doing some research a while back. The IOC was trying to set guidelines for gender, etc.

Their conclusion was the more you peered at it the less sense it made. IN GENERAL 2-6 years is sufficient for the increased vascular structure to reduce itself, and the muscles to reduce to non-testosterone levels.

If you want more, really, you have to dive into the science. It's neither pretty, conclusive, nor particularly sensible. The IOC had to discontinue chromosome testing, for instance, as they realized that chromosomes were not a great indicator of gender. Hormones, etc... it hasn't been very pleasant for them.

[Dory]

Fair enough....

Okay, how about this question then: If I won't take my hormones at the day of the test, will it give me any advantage?

See, I'm pretty sure a testesterone is a long-term thing, so I doubt it would make any serious difference... I'll just work really hard I guess

[Dory]

Check out the guns while I was just starting hormones...I could knock ya'll out with 'em things! Now they're all like...stick-figure-like.. of course, after I pass the strength test, I wouldn't care if they go back being stick-figure-like...but I gotta build up muscle mass a bit...

[GreyICE]

Fair enough....

Okay, how about this question then: If I won't take my hormones at the day of the test, will it give me any advantage?

See, I'm pretty sure a testesterone is a long-term thing, so I doubt it would make any serious difference... I'll just work really hard I guess

Long-term ish. As I said, the major advantages are the muscle mass and vascular system. The vascular system decreases as the testosterone fades and the female hormones kick in. This takes a variable period of time. The muscle mass stops being auto-built the moment the testosterone leaves, but again that doesn't eliminate existing muscles. So... variable.

It has been suggested that the IOC and similar bodies examine each transgendered athlete, as these things are so very hard to quantify on a statistical level. While possibly impractical and almost certainly liable to be politically charged, the sentiment itself can be understood.

The real point is that no playing field can be equal. In a test of strength, a thousand different genetic factors come into play. Look at two women. If one is 6', Germanic build, and the other is a 4'11" slender Japanese woman, do they have the same potential for 'strength' inherent in their genetics? No. Unlevel playing field is not level, there's no shame if the playing field has slid towards you for whatever reason.

[Dory]

I'd like to think then that the table is tilted to my direction here then, I'm quite sure its true. Definitely a complicated issue as said.