Revolt over Full Body Scans and Pat Downs at Airports

[GreyICE]

The weapons used in 9/11 were computers?

Nope! Care to try again? Good hackers rarely attack computers, the resources necessary to create a Stuxnet level worm are just too intensive (that one was most likely created by Israel or the US).

[leo-rcc]

[Gawd]

Israel checks people while they are in their cars on their way into the airport - every car is stopped, and the passengers questioned, behavioral profiling techniques are applied to see if someone needs to be checked out further and if so, that vehicle is taken aside and searched. Once they get to the airport armed guards outside the terminal are trained to observe passengers as they move toward the doors, again looking for odd behaviour. At Ben Gurion's half-dozen entrances, another layer of security are watching. At this point, some travellers will be randomly taken aside, and their person and their luggage run through a magnometer. At the airline check-in desk a trained interviewer takes your passport and ticket. They ask a series of questions: Who packed your luggage? Has it left your side? Etc. - more behavioral profiling. Lines are staggered. People are not allowed to bunch up into inviting targets for a bomber who has gotten this far. At the check-in desk, your luggage is scanned immediately in a purpose-built area. Next, they have a body and luggage hand check.

If we did what Israel does, I'd probably say that full body scanners aren't necessary.

Ummm, so have you read about how Israel only targets non-Jews while Jews are the biggest terrorists in and around Israel? You don't want to go the Israel way and racially segregate the minorities while it is actually the White/Jewish supremacists that cause most of the terrorism.

[Coito ergo sum]

Israel checks people while they are in their cars on their way into the airport - every car is stopped, and the passengers questioned, behavioral profiling techniques are applied to see if someone needs to be checked out further and if so, that vehicle is taken aside and searched. Once they get to the airport armed guards outside the terminal are trained to observe passengers as they move toward the doors, again looking for odd behaviour. At Ben Gurion's half-dozen entrances, another layer of security are watching. At this point, some travellers will be randomly taken aside, and their person and their luggage run through a magnometer. At the airline check-in desk a trained interviewer takes your passport and ticket. They ask a series of questions: Who packed your luggage? Has it left your side? Etc. - more behavioral profiling. Lines are staggered. People are not allowed to bunch up into inviting targets for a bomber who has gotten this far. At the check-in desk, your luggage is scanned immediately in a purpose-built area. Next, they have a body and luggage hand check.

If we did what Israel does, I'd probably say that full body scanners aren't necessary.

Ummm, so have you read about how Israel only targets non-Jews while Jews are the biggest terrorists in and around Israel? You don't want to go the Israel way and racially segregate the minorities while it is actually the White/Jewish supremacists that cause most of the terrorism.

I never suggested doing what Israel does. I summarized what they do. They don't "only" target non-Jews, but I certainly know that Muslims are the biggest terrorists "in and around" Israel. They are BY FAR the the biggest terrorists. Hamas - terror group. Suicide bombers - Muslim. The Party of God Hizb'Allah (fuck him and the winged horse he rode out on) - Muslims. "Islamic Jihad" - Muslims. PLO - Muslims. Fateh - Muslims.

You wanna call a spade a spade? The Muslim terrorist groups are turning terrorism into a murderous art form. They a huge pack of cultist criminals, and in comparison, I'll take my chances with "the Jews" in Israel any day of the week. I know for a fact I can go to Israel tomorrow and visit all sorts of Christian sites (I was raised Christian, but I'm an atheist) and live to tell the tale. The biggest risk I'd face is car accidents, slip and falls, and Muslims. I notice there aren't a lot of Bed n' Breakfasts opening up in Ramallah - too much American flag burning and "death to America", "death to the Infidel," and "behead those who insult Islam," going on. Someone says that shit - I take them at their word.

Happy thanksgiving.

[Coito ergo sum]

I don't get this....http://www.clickorlando.com/news/25902334/detail.html

I could certainly see a guy picking a well endowed woman to pat down --- but, since men don't pat down women, why would the guy care? Is he pimping for a lesbian TSA agent?

[Coito ergo sum]

I wanted to see the bikini....http://www.nbclosangeles.com/traffic/tr ... 04.html?dr

But, this woman's suggestion is fine for her. She's hot. We can't have everyone wearing speedos or bikinis....for obvious reasons...

[maiforpeace]

I wanted to see the bikini....http://www.nbclosangeles.com/traffic/tr ... 04.html?dr

But, this woman's suggestion is fine for her. She's hot. We can't have everyone wearing speedos or bikinis....for obvious reasons...

I was just posting the same thing...

Traveler Wears Bikini Through LAX security

Is that what you're wearing to Bella's, Rachel? If I recall, you are hot in a black bikini...

[Gawd]

You are in denial if you don't see that in and around Israel, Jews do most of the terrorism. You want to visit those holy sites? They were stolen from the Palestinians. Not even the USA recognizes the illegitimate gains of the Jewish terrorists. How about people killed by gun fire? How about people killed by bombs? If you want to discriminate right, then you would want to search Jews, not Muslims since Jews shoot and bomb waaaaay more people in and around Israel. This is why you should not look to Israel for advice, it would end up making the TSA into the KKK with a side of AIPAC for good measure.

[Coito ergo sum]

You are in denial if you don't see that in and around Israel, Jews do most of the terrorism. You want to visit those holy sites? They were stolen from the Palestinians. Not even the USA recognizes the illegitimate gains of the Jewish terrorists. How about people killed by gun fire? How about people killed by bombs? If you want to discriminate right, then you would want to search Jews, not Muslims since Jews shoot and bomb waaaaay more people in and around Israel. This is why you should not look to Israel for advice, it would end up making the TSA into the KKK with a side of AIPAC for good measure.

The numbers don't back you up on that.

But, that's a derail. Frankly - you're statement is rather silly - what Americans are concerned about in terms of security on our planes are threats to Americans. There's only one side of the Palestinian issue that is shouting "death to America." To that side I say: "go fuck yourself."

[Gawd]

Which Jewish terrorist acts are you not counting? The Jewish thieves called "settlers" with automatic rifles or the Jewish thieves who fire bomb mosques? Or how about the ones who burn the farms and trees of others because they want to terrorize the Palestinians so they leave their own homes?

The USA would have a lot less to worry about if it would just stop vetoing every single UN resolution that criticizes Israel and stop being so greedy with invading other countries. There are reasons why people attack US planes. And one of the big reasons is that the actions of the US says that Americans are jackasses. Do you really think that all the attacks are just mindless? No, they are not.

[Coito ergo sum]

Which Jewish terrorist acts are you not counting? The Jewish thieves called "settlers" with automatic rifles or the Jewish thieves who fire bomb mosques? Or how about the ones who burn the farms and trees of others because they want to terrorize the Palestinians so they leave their own homes?

The USA would have a lot less to worry about if it would just stop vetoing every single UN resolution that criticizes Israel and stop being so greedy with invading other countries. There are reasons why people attack US planes. And one of the big reasons is that the actions of the US says that Americans are jackasses. Do you really think that all the attacks are just mindless? No, they are not.

I'm not counting any of them. If you care to list them, please do, but referring to "settlers" with automatic rifles generally is just so much propaganda. List examples, and then I'll go ahead and list some Islamic terrorist attacks from around the world. I don't have any examples of Jews hijacking or trying to blow up airplanes. Muslims do that shit. And, in terms of airport security, that's what I'm concerned about.

I am confident that if Muslims stopped attacking Israel, with their howls of genocide and extermination, then there would be peace.

I don't really care what the reasons are for people attacking US planes - not relative to airport security - the point is that Muslims are doing it. So, we need to take steps to keep them from carrying out their murderous and diabolical plans.

I think the US supports Israel because Israel is under assault from racist Arab-Muslim motherfuckers. The US takes a lot of flack for doing what is right and standing up for Israel, and many Arab-Muslims hate the US because we defend what they think are Jewish pigs and dogs.

I don't want your shitbox of Sha'ria near me. I don't want your howling, spittled filled calls for the deaths of authors and filmmakers and politicians. I don't want your stupid, worm-ridden book or your religion of hate. All your propaganda to the contrary - even if we were to stop assisting Israel in every way, I would still want to oppose the sons-of-bitches and whores that you defend. Syria is a despotic, tyrannical nation that stamps on the necks of its people and spouts racist hate-mongering rhetoric. Iran is a despotic, tyrannical nation that stamps on the necks of its people and spouts racist hate-mongering rhetoric. Lebanon, which used to be a decent place, is now a filth ridden disgusting sess-pool because of the influence of Syria and the Hizb'Allah. Saudi Arabia is another filthy hate-mongering place which stamps on the necks of its people, following that filthy religion. Need I go on? Israel is surrounded by a bunch of maniacs who strap bombs to the chests of their own children - their own sons and daughters -and send them off to cafes and bus stops to blow themselves up to get to some mythical paradise that doesn't exist.

I can't defend places like that. It may be your thing, but it ain't for me.

[Gawd]

Go into my subforum and read the last thread I posted. Note the "Death to Arabs!" and "Thanks to me, there are no Arabs here." Words from one of the Jewish thieves who forced Arabs farmers off their own land and stole water wells at gun point.

Oh, and don't you know that the US gives billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia every year to repress the people there? One of the reasons why people bomb US planes. Don't you know that it is the US that put the current style of government in power in Iran. Have you forgot about Iraq? Have you forgot about the uni-bomber? My, how soon people forget. There are legitimate reasons why the US is the target.

Oh, and I don't think US planes are targeted that often, it's just paranoia and the fear of dying that makes you want to blame others.

[Coito ergo sum]

Go into my subforum and read the last thread I posted. Note the "Death to Arabs!" and "Thanks to me, there are no Arabs here." Words from one of the Jewish thieves who forced Arabs farmers off their own land and stole water wells at gun point.

Palestinians have tons of weapons. They can go back in and kill the thieves. I don't generally believe Muslim propaganda, though. It's quite often exaggeration, hyperbole and "taquiya" (sp?). But, if it's their land, then Hamas should use some of its katyusha rockets, hundreds of which have been fired into Israel, and fire at the thieving Jews who stole the innocent Arabs' farms.

Oh, and don't you know that the US gives billions of dollars to Saudi Arabia every year to repress the people there?

Yeah - so you should be happy. The US supports Arabs more than we do Jews. Yet, that' snot good enough, right? We will only not be subject to attacks from Arab-Muslim fuckwits if we withdraw all support for Israel and let the Muslims wipe Israel off the map.

If it were up to me, I'd be building 100-200 nuclear power plants and withdrawing all support from Muslims. So, we're on the same page there.

One of the reasons why people bomb US planes.

LOL - people bomb US planes because we give money to Saudi Arabia?

Don't you know that it is the US that put the current style of government in power in Iran.

The US government didn't want Ayatollahs in Iran. We were happy with the Shah.

Have you forgot about Iraq?

No - Iraq is doing great. It's a parliamentary democracy and the only real threat to the safety and relative freedom of its people comes from Muslim groups and tyrannical despots.

Have you forgot about the uni-bomber?

The "unabomber?" No - I haven't forgotten. It's just irrelevant to airport security.

My, how soon people forget. There are legitimate reasons why the US is the target.

As I mentioned, from a standpoint of airport security IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. Even if a person as the most legitimate gripe in the world, I still want him stopped before getting on a plane and blowing it up.

And, frankly - there are no legitimate reasons for blowing up civilian airliners. Anyone behind such attacks is a fucking criminal, possibly a war criminal. Anyone supporting or justifying attacks on civilians is a monster.

Oh, and I don't think US planes are targeted that often, it's just paranoia and the fear of dying that makes you want to blames others.

It doesn't matter how "often" they are attacked. They are attacked, and if one succeeds the loss of life will be heavy and the resulting damage will be tremendous. It's worth trying to prevent.

I know you don't care about the hundreds of people that might be on a plane that gets blown up, and I know you don't care about their friends and family. I know you don't care about the people on the ground that might get hurt, or the resulting economic fallout. I know you don't care about any of that, because you support Muslim groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hizb'Allah, Fateh, and countries like Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia - so, you actually want western civilians to die horrible deaths - you think it's o.k. for the "downtrodden" (that's a laugh) Muslims to kill people to get what they want.

[Gawd]

Go into my subforum and read the last thread I posted. Note the "Death to Arabs!" and "Thanks to me, there are no Arabs here." Words from one of the Jewish thieves who forced Arabs farmers off their own land and stole water wells at gun point.

Palestinians have tons of weapons. They can go back in and kill the thieves. I don't generally believe Muslim propaganda, though. It's quite often exaggeration, hyperbole and "taquiya" (sp?). But, if it's their land, then Hamas should use some of its katyusha rockets, hundreds of which have been fired into Israel, and fire at the thieving Jews who stole the innocent Arabs' farms.

Oh, so now you are advocating the Palestinians kill the Jews? What a 720 degree turn. A lot of the "Muslim propaganda" is true in regards to Israel. Just look at all the threads I've started in my little subforum. All true, and they read like the Elders of Zion but are written by conscientious Jewish reporters!

And the USA doesn't give billions of dollars to the citizens of Saudi Arabia. The USA finances the tyrannical rule of the "Royal family" in Saudi Arabia. That is big reason why people in that region don't like the USA. The reason you ask? Oil.

And Iraq? HAHAHA. You make me laugh if you think it is doing "great." How about go walk down some streets there and shout that you are an American?

It doesn't matter how "often" they are attacked. They are attacked, and if one succeeds the loss of life will be heavy and the resulting damage will be tremendous. It's worth trying to prevent.

I know you don't care about the hundreds of people that might be on a plane that gets blown up, and I know you don't care about their friends and family. I know you don't care about the people on the ground that might get hurt, or the resulting economic fallout. I know you don't care about any of that, because you support Muslim groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hizb'Allah, Fateh, and countries like Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia - so, you actually want western civilians to die horrible deaths - you think it's o.k. for the "downtrodden" (that's a laugh) Muslims to kill people to get what they want.

Funny thing, the USA and Israel don't give a shit about bombing Muslim/Arab/Persian/non-White civilians in their homes. Note all the civilians the USA and Israel have killed in the past 10 years disguised as the "War on Terror" when it is actually about stealing land and oil for White-like people.

[DRSB]

Are patdowns sexual harassment?

"Obviously, many TSA personnel take the patdown job for economic reasons. However, since the TSA does not screen personnel to determine a history of sexual offense, and given the prevalence of abusers, it cannot be ruled out that a certain percentage of TSA personnel, are themselves sexual abuse victims, and potential sexual offenders. A high percentage of male abuse victims will not self-report as such."

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/tri ... harassment