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Carlos Castaneda

Post by DRSB » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:30 pm

Am I the only idiot here that has read all his books, admittedly back in the 80s and 90s. If anything, he was good at creative writing.

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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:35 pm

I tried to read them (I think I started two or three of his books in my late teens or early tweens) but somehow I found them boring. I liked "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" a LOT more, it really stroke a chord (and still does).
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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by Pappa » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:51 pm

I liked the one I read... as a kind of lowbrow, trashy, creative drug writing kind of thing. I'm amazed anyone ever thought they were anything other than novels.
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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by DRSB » Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:53 pm

You forget that UCLA gave him Master's for the first book and a PhD for the third one. But this is one of the greatest hoaxes ever nonetheless.

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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by maiforpeace » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:39 pm

Deersbee wrote:Am I the only idiot here that has read all his books, admittedly back in the 80s and 90s. If anything, he was good at creative writing.
I read most of his books, not his later ones though. As far as woo goes, it is some of the best. :tup:

I would still very much like to try the 'little smoke'.
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Post by Rum » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:53 pm

I read his early stuff. As I was using acid and was generally off my head at the time my reaction was 'wow, if I get really high I might get some of this'. Fear was a big thing in the books too. Was not so keen on that! In retrospect however it really is all utter nonsense. Psychedelia leading to some sort of' enlightenment'? I don't think so.

..kind of sad in one way.

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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by maiforpeace » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:54 pm

Rum wrote:I read his early stuff. As I was using acid and was generally off my head at the time my reaction was 'wow, if I get really high I might get some of this'. Fear was a big thing in the books too. Was not so keen on that! In retrospect however it really is all utter nonsense. Psychedelia leading to some sort of' enlightenment'? I don't think so.

..kind of sad in one way.
Baba Ram Dass disproved that. :levi: :hehe:
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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by Pappa » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:55 pm

I just remembered. I once sent a complaint to Amazon about his books being listed as anthropology. I never did get a reply.

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Post by cowiz » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:56 pm

I have no clue what's going on here. Am I uncool?
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Post by Pappa » Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:58 pm

pawiz wrote:I have no clue what's going on here. Am I uncool?
Yes. And a total loser.

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Post by cowiz » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:02 pm

Pappa wrote:
pawiz wrote:I have no clue what's going on here. Am I uncool?
Yes. And a total loser.
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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by Pappa » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:16 pm

Rum wrote: Psychedelia leading to some sort of' enlightenment'? I don't think so.

..kind of sad in one way.
I'm sure the inner/self reflection that psychedelics encourage can lead to some useful intuitive wisdom though.

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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by cowiz » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:18 pm

Pappa wrote:
Rum wrote: Psychedelia leading to some sort of' enlightenment'? I don't think so.

..kind of sad in one way.
I'm sure the inner/self reflection that psychedelics encourage can lead to some useful intuitive wisdom though.
Only if you can remember them the next day
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Post by Robert_S » Sat Nov 20, 2010 11:56 pm

pawiz wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Rum wrote: Psychedelia leading to some sort of' enlightenment'? I don't think so.

..kind of sad in one way.
I'm sure the inner/self reflection that psychedelics encourage can lead to some useful intuitive wisdom though.
Only if you can remember them the next day
I've never had any problems remembering what happened with psychedelics. I have had a few experiences on LSD that have positively effected my relationship to the real world. I've also had quite a few times where I just tripped ballz for kicks and giggles.
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Re: Carlos Castaneda

Post by FBM » Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:57 am

In high school, I got deeply into CC and didn't grow out of it until I was in university. Though it was all based on crap, I did get a useful meditation technique out of it. The bit about walking with your eyes unfocused and increasing your dependence on your peripheral vision. It really is effective, for me, in shutting down the internal dialog, stripping away the interpretive apparati that filter out or distort experience. It adds an interesting, non-ordinary perspective, but that's about it. No gateways to other dimensions and such woo. Just a little playtime with perception.
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