:) Satan's handmaiden

[Feck]

But Anton wrote a prayer to Cthulhu .I get some of his Philosophy (well the anti christian stuff at least) but as a credible belief system it lacks..........everything.


Satanism ,Lets face it the "lords Prayer " has exactly the same effect which everway round you say it .

But hey He did trash the xians quite well so

[Chinaski]

But Anton wrote a prayer to Cthulhu .I get some of his Philosophy (well the anti christian stuff at least) but as a credible belief system it lacks..........everything.


Satanism ,Lets face it the "lords Prayer " has exactly the same effect which everway round you say it .

But hey He did trash the xians quite well so

His "prayers" and rituals are all a joke too. He explains the psychological benefits of ritualistic behaviour as a catharsis quite well in "The Satanic Bible".

[Feck]

He put some good use to sub sonics too

[charlou]

Though the story is a myth, why have no Christians ever had this epiphany? Has no one realised they were worshipping the genuine deceiver(an oxymoron in terms I'm sure).

Good question ...

Some christians do have this 'epiphany', or recognise the irony ... and some of those go on to lose their faith.

Those that don't have been trained, usually from a very young age, to believe these stories, literally. I'm sure that many, on some level, are in denial about what they really think, though. It's only when they heed the dissonance that the penny drops.

Consider my friend, he's a devout Evangelical Christian. His mum suffers from cancer and blames Satan for all cancer. According to many authoritative Christians, Satan cannot create or destroy but merely influence human beings. I explained this to him using the relative scripture and he accepted that, but continued to blame Satan? I do believe I made him think for a moment and hence why he ignored my reasoning--why was this? Well because only God can create. If God created cancer then surely he's not as benevolent as he claims. And on even further introspection, one could blame man's' revolution in the Eden which caused the Fall--he could not accept that the cancer was his and his mums fault(and I don't blame him).

I wonder if he'll ever recognise the irony of true liberation ... from the notions of God and Satan.

[Chinaski]

I know this girl who's a devout seventh day adventist. When she was what, 15, she became a convinced Satanist, under the reasoning that "Well, God won't give me what I want, let's turn to the Devil". Needless to say, nothing changed, and the death of her best friend (meningitis) reaffirmed her faith in Christ. Otherwise she's a highly intelligent girl, it's such a shame that she's subject to these bouts of irrationality.

[Feck]

I was lab partners with a girl brought up as a catholic,she lost her faith at an early age (about 14) but she used to cry and get angry and kick her lovers out of the house because of guilt (not me never went there) .Pretty messed up esp 'cos she Loved sex .

[Lozzer]

Though the story is a myth, why have no Christians ever had this epiphany? Has no one realised they were worshipping the genuine deceiver(an oxymoron in terms I'm sure).

Good question ...

Some christians do have this 'epiphany', or recognise the irony ... and some of those go on to lose their faith.

Those that don't have been trained, usually from a very young age, to believe these stories, literally. I'm sure that many, on some level, are in denial about what they really think, though. It's only when they heed the dissonance that the penny drops.

Consider my friend, he's a devout Evangelical Christian. His mum suffers from cancer and blames Satan for all cancer. According to many authoritative Christians, Satan cannot create or destroy but merely influence human beings. I explained this to him using the relative scripture and he accepted that, but continued to blame Satan? I do believe I made him think for a moment and hence why he ignored my reasoning--why was this? Well because only God can create. If God created cancer then surely he's not as benevolent as he claims. And on even further introspection, one could blame man's' revolution in the Eden which caused the Fall--he could not accept that the cancer was his and his mums fault(and I don't blame him).

I wonder if he'll ever recognise the irony of true liberation ... from the notions of God and Satan.

To be honest, I don't care. In fact I find him very interesting. It's very peculiar--nothing can contradict the 'infallible' word of God. He rejects all naturalism on this basis and the scientific evidence(or lack of) which falsifies the historical accuracy of the Jesus story. Reasoning with him is impossible, relating with him is futile. He is intelligent but does not desire real knowledge but comforting knowledge. I think he's scared he might be wrong and with the fear of hell his situation is perplexed--he knows he might be wrong but he cannot afford to accept that he is.

"Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." George Orwell, 1984.

[charlou]

Sounds like he's living the perpetual Pascal's Wager

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I was lab partners with a girl brought up as a catholic,she lost her faith at an early age (about 14) but she used to cry and get angry and kick her lovers out of the house because of guilt (not me never went there) .Pretty messed up esp 'cos she Loved sex .

She loved sex!

The dirty, dirty, little slut!


I have a few mates that are into the whole CoS thing. I've even met Gavin Baddeley a few times (he's head of the church in the UK) and argued the nonsense of disbelieving in god but worshipping santa. His arguments were similar to those expressed here - he doesn't believe in sultana either, in fact, part of joining the church includes acknowledging that setanta doesn't exist! He is a clever bloke. I have no desire to join a church though - not even a deliberately fake one.

[Lozzer]

Sounds like he's living the perpetual Pascal's Wager

Exactly, incidentally he challenged me that wager the other day. It was quite humorous, when one uses that measure they openly admit(often without knowing) that they have admitted that God cannot be proven with reason--only with a gamble(which adds to the irony I must say).

[Feck]

When talking to to people of faith some times you can actually see the point where they lose the arguement but their beliefs slam the wall down behind their eyes .It's almost as much fun as when a lover reaches their " happy place"

[Chinaski]

I was lab partners with a girl brought up as a catholic,she lost her faith at an early age (about 14) but she used to cry and get angry and kick her lovers out of the house because of guilt (not me never went there) .Pretty messed up esp 'cos she Loved sex .

She loved sex!

The dirty, dirty, little slut!


I have a few mates that are into the whole CoS thing. I've even met Gavin Baddeley a few times (he's head of the church in the UK) and argued the nonsense of disbelieving in god but worshipping santa. His arguments were similar to those expressed here - he doesn't believe in sultana either, in fact, part of joining the church includes acknowledging that setanta doesn't exist! He is a clever bloke. I have no desire to join a church though - not even a deliberately fake one.

I have Baddeley's book "Lucifer Rising", a great account of the presence of Satanism in modern culture, from the Beatles to Burzum. Great read, sounds like a very clever man. How did you meet him?

[Feck]

I was lab partners with a girl brought up as a catholic,she lost her faith at an early age (about 14) but she used to cry and get angry and kick her lovers out of the house because of guilt (not me never went there) .Pretty messed up esp 'cos she Loved sex .

She loved sex!

The dirty, dirty, little slut!


I have a few mates that are into the whole CoS thing. I've even met Gavin Baddeley a few times (he's head of the church in the UK) and argued the nonsense of disbelieving in god but worshipping santa. His arguments were similar to those expressed here - he doesn't believe in sultana either, in fact, part of joining the church includes acknowledging that setanta doesn't exist! He is a clever bloke. I have no desire to join a church though - not even a deliberately fake one.

well done you never said the word , a delight of a post , still laughing about "setanta"

[Chinaski]

mrenutt4 has a perfect post count! you can never post again.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I was lab partners with a girl brought up as a catholic,she lost her faith at an early age (about 14) but she used to cry and get angry and kick her lovers out of the house because of guilt (not me never went there) .Pretty messed up esp 'cos she Loved sex .

She loved sex!

The dirty, dirty, little slut!


I have a few mates that are into the whole CoS thing. I've even met Gavin Baddeley a few times (he's head of the church in the UK) and argued the nonsense of disbelieving in god but worshipping santa. His arguments were similar to those expressed here - he doesn't believe in sultana either, in fact, part of joining the church includes acknowledging that setanta doesn't exist! He is a clever bloke. I have no desire to join a church though - not even a deliberately fake one.

I have Baddeley's book "Lucifer Rising", a great account of the presence of Satanism in modern culture, from the Beatles to Burzum. Great read, sounds like a very clever man. How did you meet him?

My mate Trev has a gothic/darkwave band - Midnight Configuration - that are very into all that Lavey stuff. He also runs a record label and used to have a shop as well. I'm not sure exactly where Trev met GB but I met him at a couple of gigs.