V mafia

[Magicziggy]

There's an earnest self-righteousness to his posts today. On reread, that comes off as kind of n00by and townish. Also, I was wrong about who he was unvoting, and a UT unvote didn't look nearly as scummy as a normal unvote at that point.

do you think the self-righteousness was an act?

I also thought he unvoted Normal during that post. It seemed like he was explaining why he was pulling his vote. But that's old news.

What gets me about him today is that he seems like he's defining the game as a set of absolutes with no regard for innuendo. The word 'cocky' comes to mind. Also, his claim that his gaming style is carved in stone and cannot be changed. Taken in pieces, there's nothing major there. But, on the whole, his posts today seem brazen; as if he knew town was barking up the wrong tree.

I'm also getting suspicious of MZ for a similar brazen tone.

I wonder if the scum team is laughing at us for being so wrong, and that is carrying over into the game thread.

I make a point of varying my style. I don't want to be pigeon-holed.
I don't want to have a scum game and a town game. Or a special role game.
You get what you get. This game is my arrogant prick style #12.
I planning "brazen" for down the track.

I'm making a mental note that you should be high on my list whenever I'm next vig. even if you're town if you're going out of your way to be a cypher, town doesn't need you around for endgame.

That's cool. More mafia jargon. I'll get a dictionary.

[oblivion]

I don't think SR conforms to the mafia stereotypical behaviours and calls things as he sees them.
This I think is to his credit even though it makes him look a little scummy at times.
I don't see much of a problem with him at the moment.
I thought he looked very scummy last game as well. I ejected him for this very reason.
You can ask me about this rather peverse reasoning if you like.

I don't understand. You were scum in the previous game. what does this even mean?.

I'm not sure what your question is.

You thought he looked scummy and you ejected him. But you were scum. Why did you care?

I'm not backing off my three picks. Not yet. I've seen nothing to change my mind.

If you are town, then whatever reasons you have, just be willing to think about them in the light of tonight's kill(s). Town players trolleytracking is a gift to scum.

I have the most open of minds. Three players however have gone out of their way to convince me of their guilt. I need convincing otherwise.
Alternatively, better candidates need to present.

I can see why Feck is on your list. He's on everyone's list. I don't see why you have Charlou rated so high.

And I think you're fixated on me simply because you're not used to being sledged and you lost your cool. Scum generally lose their cool more easily than town do.

[Magicziggy]

I don't think SR conforms to the mafia stereotypical behaviours and calls things as he sees them.
This I think is to his credit even though it makes him look a little scummy at times.
I don't see much of a problem with him at the moment.
I thought he looked very scummy last game as well. I ejected him for this very reason.
You can ask me about this rather peverse reasoning if you like.

I don't understand. You were scum in the previous game. what does this even mean?.

I'm not sure what your question is.

You thought he looked scummy and you ejected him. But you were scum. Why did you care?.

I plan ahead. He was also my strongest advocate. The last one I should be ejecting.
You can't be predictable when you are up against it. Sometimes you roll the dice.

I'm not backing off my three picks. Not yet. I've seen nothing to change my mind.

If you are town, then whatever reasons you have, just be willing to think about them in the light of tonight's kill(s). Town players trolleytracking is a gift to scum.

I have the most open of minds. Three players however have gone out of their way to convince me of their guilt. I need convincing otherwise.
Alternatively, better candidates need to present.

I can see why Feck is on your list. He's on everyone's list. I don't see why you have Charlou rated so high.

And I think you're fixated on me simply because you're not used to being sledged and you lost your cool. Scum generally lose their cool more easily than town do.

Show me where I lost my cool. Your sledging has been mild to say the least. Tis you who are floundering.
I haven't threatened to kill you in every subsequent game where I have the opportunity afterall.

[oblivion]

I don't think SR conforms to the mafia stereotypical behaviours and calls things as he sees them.
This I think is to his credit even though it makes him look a little scummy at times.
I don't see much of a problem with him at the moment.
I thought he looked very scummy last game as well. I ejected him for this very reason.
You can ask me about this rather peverse reasoning if you like.

I don't understand. You were scum in the previous game. what does this even mean?.

I'm not sure what your question is.

You thought he looked scummy and you ejected him. But you were scum. Why did you care?.

I plan ahead. He was also my strongest advocate. The last one I should be ejecting.
You can't be predictable when you are up against it. Sometimes you roll the dice.

I'm not backing off my three picks. Not yet. I've seen nothing to change my mind.

If you are town, then whatever reasons you have, just be willing to think about them in the light of tonight's kill(s). Town players trolleytracking is a gift to scum.

I have the most open of minds. Three players however have gone out of their way to convince me of their guilt. I need convincing otherwise.
Alternatively, better candidates need to present.

I can see why Feck is on your list. He's on everyone's list. I don't see why you have Charlou rated so high.

And I think you're fixated on me simply because you're not used to being sledged and you lost your cool. Scum generally lose their cool more easily than town do.

Show me where I lost my cool. Your sledging has been mild to say the least. Tis you who are floundering.
I haven't threatened to kill you in every subsequent game where I have the opportunity afterall.

nope, I'm just telling you that your tactic looks anti-town and if I can't tell if you're town and I don't think anyone else can either, you'll be high on my list when I'm vig. You can do what you think best with that knowledge.

[Magicziggy]

nope, I'm just telling you that your tactic looks anti-town and if I can't tell if you're town and I don't think anyone else can either, you'll be high on my list when I'm vig. You can do what you think best with that knowledge.

So let's get this straight. You can't tell if I'm town by the way I'm playing.

Let's follow this through. Day 1: Oblivion can't tell if Magicziggy is town, so in consequence, blast the fucker to smithereens in every game she's got a gun. And I'm supposed to take that as a piece of friendly advice to improve my gameplay. Sure.

It also follows that you have a clear read on every other player because they are not being subjected to the same special treatment.You can read them, oh and so can everybody else.

Well, just tell us who's town and we can all go home.

Awesome. Why don't you just ask the vig directly to knock me off?
This is a rather convoluted manner by which to go about it.
So town, or scum, you would have me killed tonight by the vig because.....?

a) you dislike me (unlikely since you don't know me)
b) you dislike way I play (seems to be what you're wanting me to believe)
c) you don't understand the way I play (what others might believe)
d) you don't want me around tomorrow to give you more grief (what I actually believe)

Why have you characterised this as me somehow buckling under the stress of your interrogation? It hasn't bothered me in the slightest.
Why do you question my choices for scum when I already documented what they are? I might be wrong. Convince me.
Why do we need to give you a couple of days to analyse nks when you haven't even analysed today's lynch? Buying time?

As for my tactic. What is it? To state what I see?
I haven't called for everyone to vote with me.
I put it out there and let people make their minds up.
If you think I'm scum, lynch me tomorrow or vig kill me tonight.
I happen to think you are scum Oblivion.
And your actions today have reinforced that at every turn.
I suppose that's better than not giving a clear indication that you're town.

[Azathoth]

The corpse of Uselesstwit lies broken and mangled on the ground. You can see from his numerous wounds that he was a human.

Uselesstwit was a resistance member.

Oblivion is your leader

1. UT resistance member
2 Feck
3 Mononoke
4 Dennyb
5 DontPanic
6 Charlou
7 Morticia
8 ScienceRob
9 MagicZig
10 oblivion
11 Normal resistance member
12 Animavore
13 Durro
14 Zigmen

Lynch a lizard.

Nightfall is at midnight GMT

[Azathoth]

day two is here

[Magicziggy]

Lynch Feck

[Feck]

I would have thought after last night at least one person KNOWS i'm not a lizard (as well as all the lizard scum)

[Durro]

Crap. I won't be able to change my vote before end of round tomorrow morning. Based on what I've been able to gather from reading the thread, but not reallly knowing how many of you usually play, I'm going to

Vote Feck for a last minute vote that tied the vote and ended up causing an innocent to be lynched.

Sorry if I've got it wrong.

Do you allow proxies in this game ? I'd be happier giving a proxy to someone who can make a decision based on any further info that comes out, like a cop's investigation or whatever. I'll be around for about 10 more mins, and will change to a proxy if you guys can OK it.

[Azathoth]

No proxies here Durro.

[Durro]

OK, Feck it is, for better or for worse. See you all tomorrow.

Vote tally

Feck - 2 votes (MZ, Durro)

[Feck]

Is the fact that I was the last person to vote Normal the only reason I'm being voted for ? So on day one the vote is tied and we still don't know if Ani is innocent or not ,but obviously that makes me scum .......erm logic fail

Even if you assume that scum and only scum would vote for Normal that means there are 3 others , now of course if Ani flips town then all those that voted for him must be scum too ?

Normal Fos'd himself so I voted for him I was wrong.....do you think If I was scum and knew Normal was town I would have done that ?

[oblivion]

Ok, so why was UT the night kill I wonder.

[Zigmen]

UT said this:

My top three are
ani
feck
and normals who I'm getting less sure about.

His list looked fairly similar to a few other players. Noticibly absent is MZ, who several people FoSed. I didn't count UT's posts but he seemed fairly active yesterday.

Vote SR

Same reasons as yesterday.