But the old are set in their ways of over-consumption whilst the young are more adaptable to the coming age of scarcity. So although it is counter-intuitive it makes sense to bump off those with less time left on the clock.Clinton Huxley wrote:Logically speaking, a (western) 20 year old has, on average,about 60 years of resource consumption ahead of
him / her. A 60 year old has only 20. You can't do anything about resources already consumed, only prevent their use in the first place. On this basis it makes sense to cull the young, as a preventative measure.
How many old people can the world support?
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Absolute bullshit. I see you're relying on 'what everybody knows' for your argument.
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Regarding the point of finite resources... nobody knows yet what a good estimate for maximum world population capacity is. Every time we approach what seems like the upper limit, it rises. There's no scientific consesus on what it might be.
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I don't understand why you are hell bent on getting rid of the old people. drug addicts, human trafficers, mafia, prostitution, corporate greed, are mostly run by people between 20-50. not senior citizens. you make it sound like if the after 50 crowd is eliminated that there'll be an upstanding group of human population that deserve the what's left of the resources. it really makes no sense.
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Ebola.Seraph wrote:I can just see millions of people over the age of 60 storming the euthanasia enablers, impatiently demanding to be killed. Oh, and the drug addicts too. You mentioned killing drug addicts as well earlier, didn't you? Let's see, who else can we get? Communists. Yes, there'd have to be a few million of them left, and they must realise by now that the workers' paradise will not be forthcoming in their lifetime, so what's the point of hanging around. Then there are terrorists. All we need to do is to make belts with attached explosives freely available. Since it's a well known fact that there is no such thing as a moderate muslim, that would reduce the planet's population by over a million people.Kevin wrote:choosing a age related medical cut-off appears both the most sensible and most compassionate way of rapidly reducing a population!
I've run out of ideas for realistic, humane and reasonable ways to quickly and significantly reduce humankind. Can someone else help me out, please?
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Killing one entire generation of babies would achieve the same reduction on resources.kiki5711 wrote:I don't understand why you are hell bent on getting rid of the old people. drug addicts, human trafficers, mafia, prostitution, corporate greed, are mostly run by people between 20-50. not senior citizens. you make it sound like if the after 50 crowd is eliminated that there'll be an upstanding group of human population that deserve the what's left of the resources. it really makes no sense.

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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
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Perhaps, but in all fairness the old have had their taste of honey whilst the newborn have yet to have a life. I'm thinking of the most compassionate cull of human numbers and it seems a withdrawel of medical attention beyond palliative care at a older age will achieve minimal suffering.Don't Panic wrote:Killing one entire generation of babies would achieve the same reduction on resources.kiki5711 wrote:I don't understand why you are hell bent on getting rid of the old people. drug addicts, human trafficers, mafia, prostitution, corporate greed, are mostly run by people between 20-50. not senior citizens. you make it sound like if the after 50 crowd is eliminated that there'll be an upstanding group of human population that deserve the what's left of the resources. it really makes no sense.
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Kevin wrote:Perhaps, but in all fairness the old have had their taste of honey whilst the newborn have yet to have a life. I'm thinking of the most compassionate cull of human numbers and it seems a withdrawel of medical attention beyond palliative care at a older age will achieve minimal suffering.Don't Panic wrote:Killing one entire generation of babies would achieve the same reduction on resources.kiki5711 wrote:I don't understand why you are hell bent on getting rid of the old people. drug addicts, human trafficers, mafia, prostitution, corporate greed, are mostly run by people between 20-50. not senior citizens. you make it sound like if the after 50 crowd is eliminated that there'll be an upstanding group of human population that deserve the what's left of the resources. it really makes no sense.
so you must have "certain" newborns in mind then from "certain" families, from "certain" culture"? No? would you include crack head mother's baby, aids babies, african starved babies, black ghetto babies, palestenian muslim born babies, little mehicanos, or just babies from upper white class well educated non religious families? and throw in some rich orientals for good mesure?
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If you get rid of everybody past a certain age, life is not going to be much fun for the young. The only way I handle the thought of death is telling myself it will never happen. It's no good keeping the planet for the young, if they are going to be getting steadily more miserable as they get older.
Perhaps we should just get rid of all people with defects, or dark skin, curly hair or jewish religion, we could build a master race ................. . .
Oh well, I can only dream. I'm sure there's a final solution somewhere.
Perhaps we should just get rid of all people with defects, or dark skin, curly hair or jewish religion, we could build a master race ................. . .
Oh well, I can only dream. I'm sure there's a final solution somewhere.
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I wouldn't discriminate.kiki5711 wrote:Kevin wrote:Perhaps, but in all fairness the old have had their taste of honey whilst the newborn have yet to have a life. I'm thinking of the most compassionate cull of human numbers and it seems a withdrawel of medical attention beyond palliative care at a older age will achieve minimal suffering.Don't Panic wrote:Killing one entire generation of babies would achieve the same reduction on resources.kiki5711 wrote:I don't understand why you are hell bent on getting rid of the old people. drug addicts, human trafficers, mafia, prostitution, corporate greed, are mostly run by people between 20-50. not senior citizens. you make it sound like if the after 50 crowd is eliminated that there'll be an upstanding group of human population that deserve the what's left of the resources. it really makes no sense.
so you must have "certain" newborns in mind then from "certain" families, from "certain" culture"? No? would you include crack head mother's baby, aids babies, african starved babies, black ghetto babies, palestenian muslim born babies, little mehicanos, or just babies from upper white class well educated non religious families? and throw in some rich orientals for good mesure?
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And if we do it right this time, it might actually eliminate a fucking messiah!Don't Panic wrote:Killing one entire generation of babies would achieve the same reduction on resources.kiki5711 wrote:I don't understand why you are hell bent on getting rid of the old people. drug addicts, human trafficers, mafia, prostitution, corporate greed, are mostly run by people between 20-50. not senior citizens. you make it sound like if the after 50 crowd is eliminated that there'll be an upstanding group of human population that deserve the what's left of the resources. it really makes no sense.

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We need to keep the anti-christ though, she'll help with further population control.JimC wrote:And if we do it right this time, it might actually eliminate a fucking messiah!Don't Panic wrote:Killing one entire generation of babies would achieve the same reduction on resources.kiki5711 wrote:I don't understand why you are hell bent on getting rid of the old people. drug addicts, human trafficers, mafia, prostitution, corporate greed, are mostly run by people between 20-50. not senior citizens. you make it sound like if the after 50 crowd is eliminated that there'll be an upstanding group of human population that deserve the what's left of the resources. it really makes no sense.
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And those Zumwalts are already useless, they can be taken out with an ICBM.
The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity and richness and strangeness that is absolutely awesome. I mean the idea that such complexity can arise not only out of such simplicity, but probably absolutely out of nothing, is the most fabulous extraordinary idea. And once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened, it's just wonderful. And . . . the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned.
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I opposed the legalization of drugs and supported the re-banning of alcohol over at "irrational schizophrenia"...er, I mean "Rational Skepticism". They attacked me like a pack of mad dogs. Shortly thereafter I was banned on trumped-up charges.kiki5711 wrote:we should then also think about getting rid of useless drug addicts and alcoholics that take up time and medication of which most time they can't afford. Don't matter of the age.
The oil monkeys are simmering nicely. The days of Soylent Green and Big Brother should arrive just in time to give these young punk drug addicts their just desserts.
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Prohibition doesn't work ,never has ,never will . Now back to getting rid of the over 60's ..they are just wasted space




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And you're not?Feck wrote:Prohibition doesn't work ,never has ,never will . Now back to getting rid of the over 60's ..they are just wasted space
Like I said. Drunken oil-monkeys have it coming. Of course they' won't give up their drunken, drug-crazed binges. All the more convenient for Big Brother. The woozy oil-monkeys will surrender abjectly to the Uber-Pusher.
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