In Praise of Josh Timonen

[JimC]

So when's the next hitler video?

Tigger? Stop shilly-shallying, and snap to it.

YES!

Pretty please, Tigger?

[hadespussercats]

Josh and Cougar.

Why do I suddenly feel a strong urge to watch Jerry Springer?

... waiting for the moment when RD himself is suddenly brought on-stage.

Cougar bears some resemblance to RD in drag, don't you think? Josh seems to have a taste for older partners-- maybe people his own age can see through the scraggy beard and the carefully unkempt hair to the fucktard within a little too easily. Maybe, despite being able to use RDF funds to pay for her home improvements, Cougar should watch her back.

[rodeoclown]

Josh Timonen deserves no praise, turns out he is a douchebag. From http://www.courthousenews.com/2010/10/22/31283.htm

GLENDALE, Calif. (CN) - Evolutionary biologist and best-selling author Richard Dawkins claims an employee of his Foundation for Reason and Science embezzled $375,000 from the online store he ran for Dawkins' charity, by claiming it made only $30,000 in 3 years.
Dawkins says he founded the charity to "support scientific education, critical thinking and evidence-based understanding of the natural world in the quest to overcome religious fundamentalism, superstition, intolerance and human suffering."
Dawkins hired Josh Timonen in 2006 to run his website and produce videos for him, according to the Superior Court complaint. Timonen began working for the Foundation in 2007.
According to Timonen's own records, Dawkins and the Foundation paid Timonen a total of $278,750 in 3½ years - an amount Dawkins calls "exceedingly generous and well above-market for someone of Timonen's age and experience, particularly for someone providing the bulk of his efforts to a charitable organization."
Dawkins says Timonen was "24 or 25 years old" when he hired him.
In 2007, Dawkins says, he and the Foundation asked Timonen to create an online store to market a series of educational DVDs Dawkins made from a lecture series he had given in 1991, and to sell T-shirts, hats, mugs and other merchandise. All proceeds from the store were to benefit the foundation.
Because legal requirements imposed by the British Charities Commission prohibited the British wing of the foundation from running its own store, Dawkins says he asked Timonen to run the store through his company, Upper Branch Productions.
Timonen took the reins, Dawkins says, and ran the online store for 3 years, during which he claimed the store cleared only $30,000 and "was just squeaking by."
But the scientist says Timonen actually pocketed $375,000.
Dawkins says he found out about the scam this year, when the Foundation decided to wrest control of the store from Timonen.
Timonen handed over financial books that detailed his embezzlement, Dawkins says, including $500 meals, trips to Timberline Lodge in Oregon and the Malibu Beach Inn, and $314,000 in "salaries" paid to Timonen and his girlfriend -though Timonen and the Foundation agreed that the $278,000 it was aware of paying him would be his combined salary for running the store and performing his other duties.
Timonen's "significantly older" girlfriend, defendant Maureen Norton, allegedly used at least $100,000 of the charity's money to upgrade her Sherman Oaks home before she put it on the market.
A recent real estate listing describes improvements such as a "custom backyard pool and spa area with a wonderful waterfall and glass block fire pit plus custom seating for the ultimate outdoor living and entertaining experience," according to the complaint.
Dawkins claims Timonen made off with 92 percent of the money generated at the store in 3 years.
When Dawkins discovered the embezzlement, he says, Timonen suddenly claimed he owned the intellectual rights to the store's website, the Foundation logo and the DVDs that he sold through the store.
But Dawkins says anything Timonen created for the Foundation was "a work for hire, commissioned and paid for by plaintiffs." Dawkins says he and the Foundation own the rights to everything Timonen created for them.
Dawkins is an emeritus fellow at New College in Oxford. From 1995 until 2008 he was Professor for Public Understanding of Science at University of Oxford. He has written 11 books, including "The Selfish Gene" (1976), in which he introduced the concept of the meme, and the 2006 bestseller "The God Delusion," in which he argued that a Godlike creator does not exist. In his 18-page complaint, Dawkins describes himself as "the world's best known and most respected atheist."
Dawkins demands $950,000 plus punitive damages from Timonen, Norton and Upper Branch Productions. He and the Foundation are represented by Blaine Greenberg of Encino.

This is likely why his name dissappeared from RDF's site, it's because he's a damn scumbag thief!

[charlou]

Hello and welcome, rodeoclown

There's a thread on that, here: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 75&t=18747

[JimC]

Hello and welcome, rodeoclown

There's a thread on that, here: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 75&t=18747

And also, the "In praise of" bit was so deeply ironic it would take a bathyscape to actually find it...

[charlou]

Hello and welcome, rodeoclown

There's a thread on that, here: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 75&t=18747

And also, the "In praise of" bit was so deeply ironic it would take a bathyscape to actually find it you couldn't miss it unless you were submerged in a bathyscape ...

[Faithfree]

I suspect someone has just slipped off the birthday card list: http://richarddawkins.net/articles/2201 ... sh-timonen

[electricwhiteboy]

One day he might even learn to siphon off charity funds into an untraceable offshore account rather than JUST LEAVE A MASSIVE PAPER TRAIL.

Nah I know nothing more than anyone else does. I'm just surmising from the same information that Josh seems to not have taken any pains to hide what he was doing at all. No secret ledger, no real deviousness at all, simply the massive arrogance to seemingly believe he was due a fuck of a lot more money than his already generous pay check from a charity. There are ways and means he could have done this but from the looks of this he’s simply been caught with his hand in the cookie jar and so “WHAT THESE ARE MY COOKIES I OWN THE RIGHTS!”

[Feck]

I wonder if the US tax man will be interested ?

[GeneticJen]

What could possibly give you that idea? Josh is a top bloke. Who doesn't like people who destroy communities with little or no regard o those affected?

[quote="joshtimonen";p="533308"]Have you ever sat back and watched tons of people discuss lies about you? It's horrible.

Yeah Josh, we fucking have.[/quote]

[Tero]

Its a conspiracy to sell more god delusion books. Special Christmas delivery.

[lordpasternack]

There are ways and means he could have done this but from the looks of this he’s simply been caught with his hand in the cookie jar and so “WHAT THESE ARE MY COOKIES I OWN THE RIGHTS!”

Yeah. I fucking well hope that this means the moratorium on calling him a suppurating rat's rectum has been lifted…

[The Curious Squid]

It hasn't though LP, unfortunately he's joined this forum and now he's protected by our rules which means that ad homs are off the cards.

I don't like it any more than you do but can you please take that into account and hold back on the insults.

[lordpasternack]

Squid - are you sure that that account isn't a joke sockpuppet?

[The Curious Squid]

Squid - are you sure that that account isn't a joke sockpuppet?

Yes, he's joined on RatSkep and quoted it in his blog as well. It's the actual Josh.