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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Don't Panic » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:32 pm

Animavore wrote:
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Animavore wrote:Just thought I'd add the obligatory Star Trek, in all it's incarnations, suck scaly Klingon balls.
I lied. I forgot about The Wrath of Khan... which is starting now :dance:
All the movies on film 4 this weekend, 6 and 8 are about the only other watchable ones, unless you like San Fran in the 80's.
The one with the whales? I used to love that as a kid.

They're a bit ropey to look at now. I lolled a few times at this one. It's not over yet though.

It was funny when Spock said, "The laws of logic dictate that the the need of the many outweigh the needs of a few" :lol: Logic fail!
Philosophical imperatives of moral precepts have nothing to do with "logic".
You must be watching on +1, 3 is on now.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Animavore » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:34 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Don't Panic wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Animavore wrote:Just thought I'd add the obligatory Star Trek, in all it's incarnations, suck scaly Klingon balls.
I lied. I forgot about The Wrath of Khan... which is starting now :dance:
All the movies on film 4 this weekend, 6 and 8 are about the only other watchable ones, unless you like San Fran in the 80's.
The one with the whales? I used to love that as a kid.

They're a bit ropey to look at now. I lolled a few times at this one. It's not over yet though.

It was funny when Spock said, "The laws of logic dictate that the the need of the many outweigh the needs of a few" :lol: Logic fail!
Philosophical imperatives of moral precepts have nothing to do with "logic".
You must be watching on +1, 3 is on now.
Yep.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by klr » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:01 pm

Is #5 really as bad as everyone says? Should I waste my time watching even this one time to confirm how crap it is? :shifty:
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Animavore » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:02 pm

klr wrote:Is #5 really as bad as everyone says? Should I waste my time watching even this one time to confirm how crap it is? :shifty:
It's really, really bad.
I say watch it.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by klr » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:04 pm

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klr wrote:Is #5 really as bad as everyone says? Should I waste my time watching even this one time to confirm how crap it is? :shifty:
It's really, really bad.
I say watch it.
I'll take that under advisement. :eddy:

I'll record it and watch it "later", if I'm ever in a particularly masochistic mood. :coffee:
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Animavore » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:06 pm

klr wrote:
Animavore wrote:
klr wrote:Is #5 really as bad as everyone says? Should I waste my time watching even this one time to confirm how crap it is? :shifty:
It's really, really bad.
I say watch it.
I'll take that under advisement. :eddy:

I'll record it and watch it "later", if I'm ever in a particularly masochistic mood. :coffee:
I just wanted to see someone else suffer.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:08 pm

#5 tied #3 for second worst box office. ($17 mill.) #2 made $11 mill. :coffee:
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by klr » Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:11 pm

Animavore wrote:
klr wrote:
Animavore wrote:
klr wrote:Is #5 really as bad as everyone says? Should I waste my time watching even this one time to confirm how crap it is? :shifty:
It's really, really bad.
I say watch it.
I'll take that under advisement. :eddy:

I'll record it and watch it "later", if I'm ever in a particularly masochistic mood. :coffee:
I just wanted to see someone else suffer.
I actually want to watch it, precisely because of its evil reputation. I'm curious as to why it hardly ever seems to be shown on TV, but I think I'm going to find out the reasons. :lol:
Gawdzilla wrote:#5 tied #3 for second worst box office. ($17 mill.) #2 made $11 mill. :coffee:
Don't bombard me with figures. I'm trying to watch #4 at the moment, and trying to keep tabs on a couple of sports highlights programs at the same time. :panic:

Wait, Scotty is about to have an encounter with a Mac. :leave:
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

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In the end we found out that all that jumping around was God's fault, he was having what's-his-name clean up the messes. :fp: (Stupid, beyond stupid, but it must have been the only ending they could find for that lame show.)
Also, God is a bartender.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by klr » Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:05 pm

I've just watched #5, and ... it wasn't quite as awful as I had been led to believe :shifty:. But I plead the following in mitigation:

* I wasn't expecting much, based on the near-universal bad press.

* I don't expect much from Star Trek flicks in general - they hardly represent the pinnacle of the cinematic art form. :levi:

* Star Trek - both the TV series and some of the previous movies - are stiff with "supernatural" elements (far, far too much IMHO). What's so special about a run-of-the mill "entity" that couldn't even get off of its own planet under its own steam? C'mon, what were you expecting? :lol:

Having said all of that, I don't think I'll be watching it again any time soon. :coffee:
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Don't Panic » Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:23 pm

klr wrote:I've just watched #5, and ... it wasn't quite as awful as I had been led to believe :shifty:. But I plead the following in mitigation:

* I wasn't expecting much, based on the near-universal bad press.

* I don't expect much from Star Trek flicks in general - they hardly represent the pinnacle of the cinematic art form. :levi:

* Star Trek - both the TV series and some of the previous movies - are stiff with "supernatural" elements (far, far too much IMHO). What's so special about a run-of-the mill "entity" that couldn't even get off of its own planet under its own steam? C'mon, what were you expecting? :lol:

Having said all of that, I don't think I'll be watching it again any time soon. :coffee:
The worst parts of 5 aren't even the whole 'god' thing, it's the bloody awful plot, jaded dialogue, and all-round failure of the elements to work as a cohesive movie.

The planet of galactic peace is a lift of tatooine, spock's evil half-brother is taken from any one of a thousand stories, the campfire in the wilderness eating beans is from a western, the jailbreak is the same, the list is endless.

There was practically nothing original in the entire movie. The only scene worth a mention in the entire movie is the one after the jailbreak, Scotty's encounter with the bulkhead after uttering "I know this ship like the back of my hand". 8 seconds in a 2 hour movie.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by klr » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:49 pm

Don't Panic wrote:
klr wrote:I've just watched #5, and ... it wasn't quite as awful as I had been led to believe :shifty:. But I plead the following in mitigation:

* I wasn't expecting much, based on the near-universal bad press.

* I don't expect much from Star Trek flicks in general - they hardly represent the pinnacle of the cinematic art form. :levi:

* Star Trek - both the TV series and some of the previous movies - are stiff with "supernatural" elements (far, far too much IMHO). What's so special about a run-of-the mill "entity" that couldn't even get off of its own planet under its own steam? C'mon, what were you expecting? :lol:

Having said all of that, I don't think I'll be watching it again any time soon. :coffee:
The worst parts of 5 aren't even the whole 'god' thing, it's the bloody awful plot, jaded dialogue, and all-round failure of the elements to work as a cohesive movie.

The planet of galactic peace is a lift of tatooine, spock's evil half-brother is taken from any one of a thousand stories, the campfire in the wilderness eating beans is from a western, the jailbreak is the same, the list is endless.

There was practically nothing original in the entire movie. The only scene worth a mention in the entire movie is the one after the jailbreak, Scotty's encounter with the bulkhead after uttering "I know this ship like the back of my hand". 8 seconds in a 2 hour movie.
Yup, I got all of those as well and more besides, including the Waltons reference during the campfire scene. Maybe with a bit more money (or a lot more), they could have produced a much more polished effort. How much that would have mattered ... maybe not at all.

it seems Shatner can direct about as well as he can sing. :drama:
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Clinton Huxley » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:55 pm

Star Trek can't compete with Space 1999. Bernard Cribbins as a malevolent washing machine? It's what Sunday afternoons were made for.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by Animavore » Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:58 pm

Sorry klr, but you're simply wrong. Nothing wrong with being wrong, of course. But you are just wrong in this case.

It was one of the worst films ever made. Why no one was held accountable is beyond me. It's almost like Bloody Sunday.
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Re: Star Trek The Next Generation

Post by klr » Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:08 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:Star Trek can't compete with Space 1999. Bernard Cribbins as a malevolent washing machine? It's what Sunday afternoons were made for.
Here in Ireland, they showed Space 1999 on weekday afternoons, just after school.

And then they cancelled the show. :cry:
Animavore wrote:Sorry klr, but you're simply wrong. Nothing wrong with being wrong, of course. But you are just wrong in this case.

It was one of the worst films ever made. Why no one was held accountable is beyond me. It's almost like Bloody Sunday.
Nope, I can think of a very long list of candidates for that, and I've probably seen only a fraction of the films you've seen.

Remember, I didn't say it was good. I just it wasn't quite as atrocious as it has been made out to be (which isn't saying much). There's a big difference ... :eddy:

I also made sure not to waste the time completely, so I did something else while watching it.
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