A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

[kiki5711]

Imagination Theory, Thank you for posting that stuff. I've always liked Kiki going back to our days on RDF, and I have an even higher opinion of her now. The fact that she is that up-in-your-face and fiery makes her all the more likeable to me.

It took me awhile to get next to Gallstones, but I fully believe that she is another strong, no bullshit kind of person who has a genuine appreciation of beauty, nature and a lot of other things.

Yes, the people at ratskep have gotten rid of some of us shit-stirrers, and I think that ratskep is all the poorer and much duller for it. I don't expect this to happen, but I think that if the mods at ratskep really had balls, they'd issue apologies to those of us they found too difficult to deal with and welcome us back with open arms.

WTF?!?

Of course, it would take strong people to do something like that...

Well let's see how open to free-speech you are here eh? You're a fucking slimy spineless bastard with your weak as piss passive-aggressive quips. It's gutless wankers like you that I'm glad we get rid of over there. Why don't you grow a set and stop pussy footing around?

Oh, and by the way, when I get a warning for this post, I expect that you will get one too for your personal attack on me above.

Your true colors have finally come out. Lamont is a person of quality you'll never be.

Hmm, another personal attack. This free-speech thing is great, not.

Another personal attack????? AFter spouting your foul mouth, you have the nerve!!! This is what I'm talking about happening over there! People like you have the nerve to complain but just luuuuv to insult in a sneaky dirty way. At least I say what I mean.

[Trolldor]

Ok, thanks for your expert opinion on how ratskep works. I better head over there now and set the mods straight, as there are a shitload of threads that apparently should be banned.

Glad to hear that. It's nice to see you're finally listen--- Oh, how witty and clever and subtle of you. You haven't, of course, said anything to refute my point. If the rule is applied equally, then anybody who presents a negative opinion on a group or ideology will be causing offense or affront.

[LaMont Cranston]

rEvolutionist, Yes, free speech is a truly wonderful thing, and so is humor. The two of them together are dynamite!

For the record, rEv, I am not CLEARLY inferring anything. I am FLAT OUT saying that those people who have put themselves in positions of power and have made those decisions are weak, wimpy, whiney, rigid, irrational, narrow-minded, uptight, defensive, emotionally-driven, fit throwing and cowardly, to mention a few of their more obvious qualities. I could mention many more, but I think that you get the idea.

[Trolldor]

What it means is not that we dislike him because he's fat and sweaty say, but because he's a right wing hawk since 9/11 and his arguments are heavily rhetorical and theatrical but not particularly rational. I like listening to the guy precisely because of his theatrics, but I don't think he does the cause of atheism and rationality much good. And there are a quite a number of us from rdf and rs who think that. Just sayin'.

Not particularly rational why? He certainly cites evidence which supports his position.

Oh! I see. He's not rational because you disagree with him.

[Durro]

rEvolutionist, Yes, free speech is a truly wonderful thing, and so is humor. The two of them together are dynamite!

For the record, rEv, I am not CLEARLY inferring anything. I am FLAT OUT saying that those people who have put themselves in positions of power and have made those decisions are weak, wimpy, whiney, rigid, irrational, narrow-minded, uptight, defensive, emotionally-driven, fit throwing and cowardly, to mention a few of their more obvious qualities. I could mention many more, but I think that you get the idea.

You are aware that several ratz members are also ratskep mods, aren't you ? They've participated in this thread. You are directly insulting some Ratz members with this sort of unfounded and unfair character assassination.

[kiki5711]

rEvolutionist, Yes, free speech is a truly wonderful thing, and so is humor. The two of them together are dynamite!

For the record, rEv, I am not CLEARLY inferring anything. I am FLAT OUT saying that those people who have put themselves in positions of power and have made those decisions are weak, wimpy, whiney, rigid, irrational, narrow-minded, uptight, defensive, emotionally-driven, fit throwing and cowardly, to mention a few of their more obvious qualities. I could mention many more, but I think that you get the idea.

You are aware that several ratz members are also ratskep mods, aren't you ? They've participated in this thread. You are directly insulting some Ratz members with this sort of unfounded and unfair character assassination.

OM frekn god! why the hell did you just pick his post out of all the others?

see this is what really bugs me.............they do this all the time in the other place.........pick and choose who they want to pick on!!!!!!!!!! stupid!!! stupid!! stupid!!!

[Trolldor]

Drama Llama is saddled and ready.

[Durro]

Well Kiki, thank you for that. It's so nice to be made to feel welcome in this forum. I have no idea where people are getting this "us and them" thing from, especially when people like you are so warm and friendly.

Up to this point, the discussions have primarily focussed on ratskep rules, policies and the way they're enforced and while I don't necessarily agree with some of the viewpoints here, people are entitled to hold them and express them. But LaMont Cranston's post was a direct personal insult to some people who are Ratz members and have posted here in this thread.

[pErvinalia]

The only question I have for you is "If you think ratskep is so fucking great, why are you spending so much time over here throwing an ongoing tantrum?"

I'm just here to set the record straight.

[pErvinalia]

The irony is too much.

Not really.

They're free to present any opinion they want, and the membership is free to respond to that opinion however they want. If the responses are just single smilies or dirty jokes, then that's their freedom to respond as such. If the response is reasoned and extensive, then that too is their freedom.

It's also stupid. How do you judge the quality of this thread? I judge it as a bunch of vain monologuing from just about everyone involved (and lately that includes myself).

[pErvinalia]

Imagination Theory, Thank you for posting that stuff. I've always liked Kiki going back to our days on RDF, and I have an even higher opinion of her now. The fact that she is that up-in-your-face and fiery makes her all the more likeable to me.

It took me awhile to get next to Gallstones, but I fully believe that she is another strong, no bullshit kind of person who has a genuine appreciation of beauty, nature and a lot of other things.

Yes, the people at ratskep have gotten rid of some of us shit-stirrers, and I think that ratskep is all the poorer and much duller for it. I don't expect this to happen, but I think that if the mods at ratskep really had balls, they'd issue apologies to those of us they found too difficult to deal with and welcome us back with open arms.

WTF?!?

Of course, it would take strong people to do something like that...

Well let's see how open to free-speech you are here eh? You're a fucking slimy spineless bastard with your weak as piss passive-aggressive quips. It's gutless wankers like you that I'm glad we get rid of over there. Why don't you grow a set and stop pussy footing around?

Oh, and by the way, when I get a warning for this post, I expect that you will get one too for your personal attack on me above.

Your true colors have finally come out. Lamont is a person of quality you'll never be.

Hmm, another personal attack. This free-speech thing is great, not.

Another personal attack????? AFter spouting your foul mouth, you have the nerve!!! This is what I'm talking about happening over there! People like you have the nerve to complain but just luuuuv to insult in a sneaky dirty way.

Huh?!? There's wasn't anything "sneaky" about my attack on Lamont. I think I was quite forthcoming.

[maiforpeace]

rEvolutionist, Yes, free speech is a truly wonderful thing, and so is humor. The two of them together are dynamite!

For the record, rEv, I am not CLEARLY inferring anything. I am FLAT OUT saying that those people who have put themselves in positions of power and have made those decisions are weak, wimpy, whiney, rigid, irrational, narrow-minded, uptight, defensive, emotionally-driven, fit throwing and cowardly, to mention a few of their more obvious qualities. I could mention many more, but I think that you get the idea.

Lamont, you already said this earlier - we got the idea the first time.

I understand you have issues with the moderators over at RS, but frankly, repeating yourself like this, without offering anything constructive, fits a few of the criticisms you lobbied at the moderators in your post above.

[pErvinalia]

Ok, thanks for your expert opinion on how ratskep works. I better head over there now and set the mods straight, as there are a shitload of threads that apparently should be banned.

Glad to hear that. It's nice to see you're finally listen--- Oh, how witty and clever and subtle of you. You haven't, of course, said anything to refute my point. If the rule is applied equally, then anybody who presents a negative opinion on a group or ideology will be causing offense or affront.

Or.... you just don't know what you're talking about. Some of you should actually spend some time getting to know the thing you are so keen to trash, BEFORE trashing it. As I said, the mods take the context of the discussion into account. 99% of us are happy with that. 1% aren't. I'm not losing any sleep over it.

[pErvinalia]

What it means is not that we dislike him because he's fat and sweaty say, but because he's a right wing hawk since 9/11 and his arguments are heavily rhetorical and theatrical but not particularly rational. I like listening to the guy precisely because of his theatrics, but I don't think he does the cause of atheism and rationality much good. And there are a quite a number of us from rdf and rs who think that. Just sayin'.

Not particularly rational why? He certainly cites evidence which supports his position.

Oh! I see. He's not rational because you disagree with him.

Bit presumptuous, dontcha think? I actually generally agree with him, although I'm not so much of a "new atheist" like him and Dawkins. I just think his arguments are intellectually weak, and are more for rhetorical show. And as far as that point goes that's fine, as his opponents are usually probably too stupid to understand this difference anyway.

[pErvinalia]

rEvolutionist, Yes, free speech is a truly wonderful thing, and so is humor. The two of them together are dynamite!

For the record, rEv, I am not CLEARLY inferring anything. I am FLAT OUT saying that those people who have put themselves in positions of power and have made those decisions are weak, wimpy, whiney, rigid, irrational, narrow-minded, uptight, defensive, emotionally-driven, fit throwing and cowardly, to mention a few of their more obvious qualities. I could mention many more, but I think that you get the idea.

You are aware that several ratz members are also ratskep mods, aren't you ? They've participated in this thread. You are directly insulting some Ratz members with this sort of unfounded and unfair character assassination.

OM frekn god! why the hell did you just pick his post out of all the others?

Becuase it's particularly abusive and offensive. I doubt you'll see him (or me, in regards to my posts) complaining that they are the subject of further discussion.

see this is what really bugs me.............they do this all the time in the other place.........pick and choose who they want to pick on!!!!!!!!!! stupid!!! stupid!! stupid!!!

Umm, Lamont's post is specifically relevant to Durro, as he is a mod over at ratskep. He's not randomly picking on the guy. He is defending himself. Once again, get some perspective.