Piracy
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I love the way that they act like people copying music and sharing it is some kind of new phenomenon
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Re: Piracy
Recording music and selling it is a new phenomenon.Ghatanothoa wrote:I love the way that they act like people copying music and sharing it is some kind of new phenomenon
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Depending on what time scale you're referring to.
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Robert is a nymph, tomorrow is a new universe. You still owe money to Sony.
At least I'm housebroken.
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Sony...owtth wrote:Robert is a nymph, tomorrow is a new universe. You still owe money to Sony.
They aren't even worthy of me stealing their shit.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Don't fret, I've stolen it on your behalf. But just the good stuff.Robert_S wrote:Sony...owtth wrote:Robert is a nymph, tomorrow is a new universe. You still owe money to Sony.
They aren't even worthy of me stealing their shit.
At least I'm housebroken.
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Re: Piracy
Not necessarily... The far east had a massive music piracy industry in the 1970s. It's where most of my tapes came from when I was a kid.Robert_S wrote:Recording music and selling it is a new phenomenon.Ghatanothoa wrote:I love the way that they act like people copying music and sharing it is some kind of new phenomenon
That said, If music is worth listening to, it's worth paying for - especially if it's a hard working jobbing band - someone like Metallica or U2 I'm not going to lose any sleep if they get downloaded a few times.
It's funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious.
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Those hard working bands are out there touring, making cash that way. I like to get out and see them, maybe I'll buy a CD or a sticker or something.BlackBart wrote:Not necessarily... The far east had a massive music piracy industry in the 1970s. It's where most of my tapes came from when I was a kid.Robert_S wrote:Recording music and selling it is a new phenomenon.Ghatanothoa wrote:I love the way that they act like people copying music and sharing it is some kind of new phenomenon
That said, If music is worth listening to, it's worth paying for - especially if it's a hard working jobbing band - someone like Metallica or U2 I'm not going to lose any sleep if they get downloaded a few times.
I tend to like bands that end up on indie labels like Bloodshot, Hightone, Dischord., touch and go... I haven't heard anything from those guys about being threatened by extra-commercial music dissemination. My advise to anyone listening to the top 40 crap that actually might be threatened by it is to continue doing so until the major labels are extinct.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Piracy
From my source of all reliable facts on current affairs: Cracked.com
The whole article: http://www.cracked.com/funny-4003-the-pirate-bay/
I use torrents and download illegally mainly because I prefer the free option. But I pay for stuff/artists I think are worth it.
The whole article: http://www.cracked.com/funny-4003-the-pirate-bay/
I use torrents and download illegally mainly because I prefer the free option. But I pay for stuff/artists I think are worth it.
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Or check out those music publishing arrangements that challenge the old "record label take 90 % +" model. Magnatune is one: their artists get 50 % of the gross income. Creative Commons by-nc-sa or by-sa licensed music is another option, but I haven't figured out an easy way to find such yet.Mallardz wrote: No point in helping the bastard industry if there's no money going to the musicians themselves.
Check out http://magnatune.com/info/whynotevil
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So I bought an album the other day (physical copy, I like owning CDs).But while it was on its way in the post I downloaded a copy so I could listen to it on the way into university.
Despite my lack of patience being utterly reprehensible (I blame society), I gather that although in my view not in any way "wrong" my actions would still have been technically illegal.
This raises the question, has anyone else ever pirated something they already technically owned for the sake of convenience?In the best laid plans of history lie the ruins of the past
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Yup. A few course books, which I own and have also downloaded from the electronic version in the uni library. PDFs are so much easier to search than printed paper...beige wrote:
But while it was on its way in the post I downloaded a copy so I could listen to it on the way into university.
Despite my lack of patience being utterly reprehensible (I blame society), I gather that although in my view not in any way "wrong" my actions would still have been technically illegal.
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The way I look at it is like this, if I didn't download this album/song would I have actually bought it? At least 90% of the time the answer is no, so the record company hasn't actually lost anything because they never actually lost a sale through piracy, if anything they just got some free publicity for the band.
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Has anyone thought about how ludicrous it is to claim ownership of a song?
I think to 'own' a song, you have to sing the FUCK out of it.
I think to 'own' a song, you have to sing the FUCK out of it.
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About as ludicrous as claiming ownership of anything else.Cunt wrote:Has anyone thought about how ludicrous it is to claim ownership of a song?
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