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Re: NK promises nuclear "sacred war"

Post by FBM » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:05 pm

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devogue wrote:Could you get it in 3D?
If you supply the camera. Ever priced one of those? :shock:

Seriously - I would get the fuck out of there if I was you. But that's just me. If I was on the Titanic I would have slipped in to some comfy pantyhose and a pink skirt to get in to a lifebaot without any hesitation.
I can just see you in DiCaprio's arms... :hehe:


Seriously, it's too early to run, and I doubt there'll be time to run once the buttons are pushed. I'm stuck, I reckon. Qué será será. Who knows, I might even survive and have some very cool pics to show.
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Re: NK promises nuclear "sacred war"

Post by Twoflower » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:13 pm

FBM wrote:
Twoflower wrote:
FBM wrote:
devogue wrote:Could you get it in 3D?
If you supply the camera. Ever priced one of those? :shock:

Seriously - I would get the fuck out of there if I was you. But that's just me. If I was on the Titanic I would have slipped in to some comfy pantyhose and a pink skirt to get in to a lifebaot without any hesitation.
I can just see you in DiCaprio's arms... :hehe:


Seriously, it's too early to run, and I doubt there'll be time to run once the buttons are pushed. I'm stuck, I reckon. Qué será será. Who knows, I might even survive and have some very cool pics to show.
I don't care how early it is. RUN!!!!
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Re: War time/NK's "sacred war" threat...merge

Post by Lozzer » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:21 pm

You're taking all of this in your stride aren't you FBM? :dance: How's your comrades in the South? Are they running around like headless chickens yet?
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Re: NK promises nuclear "sacred war"

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:23 pm

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devogue wrote:Could you get it in 3D?
If you supply the camera. Ever priced one of those? :shock:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:49 pm

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If we send some HKs to NK it will be OK.
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Re: War time/NK's "sacred war" threat...merge

Post by FBM » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:26 am

Mmm'kaaayyy....http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/ ... id=2924081
North repositions artillery: sources


August 03, 2010
North Korea is repositioning its arsenal near the South Korean border in an attempt to make it more difficult for long-range artillery fire to inflict significant damage on its resources, according to intelligence sources.

The sources told the JoongAng Ilbo on Sunday that the North Korean military is relocating its long-range artillery fire, which is set up in mountain caves, from near the southern gate of the caves to the northern gate. The North is also building a protective cover over the facility, the sources said.

“Over several years, South Korea and the United States have prepared against the threat from North Korean long-range artillery fire,” said a military official. “As far as I know, the North Korean military is taking measures to improve the chances that its long-range artillery fire will survive [an attack from the South] by repositioning them inside the [caves].”

Another source said if artillery were relocated to the back of the caves, the South Korea-U.S. alliance would have trouble counterattacking a North Korean attack and hitting the North Korean long-range artillery fire with K9 (155-millimeter) artillery and a multiple launch rocket system.

Only a Joint Direct Attack Munition (a kind of smart bomb) or missiles dropped from a combat plane could destroy the long-range artillery fire moved to the rear, the second source said, adding that it would significantly limit the ways Seoul and Washington could respond to an attack.

The protective cover the North is setting up is meant to counter cluster bombs, the second source said. Cluster bombs are air-dropped weapons that eject a cluster of smaller bombs. The sources said the South Korean military is considering developing new weapons that could destroy this cover.

North Korea’s long-range artillery fire, either a 240-millimeter caliber multiple-launch rocket system or a 170-millimeter self-propelled artillery, claim an effective range of 55 to 65 kilometers (34 to 40 miles). According to the South Korean Defense White Paper and other military data, about 600 such North Korean munitions have been set up near the border, posing a significant threat to Seoul.


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Re: War time/NK's "sacred war" threat...merge

Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:00 am

FBM wrote:Mmm'kaaayyy....http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/ ... id=2924081
North repositions artillery: sources


August 03, 2010
North Korea is repositioning its arsenal near the South Korean border in an attempt to make it more difficult for long-range artillery fire to inflict significant damage on its resources, according to intelligence sources.

The sources told the JoongAng Ilbo on Sunday that the North Korean military is relocating its long-range artillery fire, which is set up in mountain caves, from near the southern gate of the caves to the northern gate. The North is also building a protective cover over the facility, the sources said.

“Over several years, South Korea and the United States have prepared against the threat from North Korean long-range artillery fire,” said a military official. “As far as I know, the North Korean military is taking measures to improve the chances that its long-range artillery fire will survive [an attack from the South] by repositioning them inside the [caves].”

Another source said if artillery were relocated to the back of the caves, the South Korea-U.S. alliance would have trouble counterattacking a North Korean attack and hitting the North Korean long-range artillery fire with K9 (155-millimeter) artillery and a multiple launch rocket system.

Only a Joint Direct Attack Munition (a kind of smart bomb) or missiles dropped from a combat plane could destroy the long-range artillery fire moved to the rear, the second source said, adding that it would significantly limit the ways Seoul and Washington could respond to an attack.

The protective cover the North is setting up is meant to counter cluster bombs, the second source said. Cluster bombs are air-dropped weapons that eject a cluster of smaller bombs. The sources said the South Korean military is considering developing new weapons that could destroy this cover.

North Korea’s long-range artillery fire, either a 240-millimeter caliber multiple-launch rocket system or a 170-millimeter self-propelled artillery, claim an effective range of 55 to 65 kilometers (34 to 40 miles). According to the South Korean Defense White Paper and other military data, about 600 such North Korean munitions have been set up near the border, posing a significant threat to Seoul.


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Re: War time/NK's "sacred war" threat...merge

Post by Robert_S » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:11 am

AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
FBM wrote:Mmm'kaaayyy....http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/ ... id=2924081
North repositions artillery: sources


August 03, 2010
North Korea is repositioning its arsenal near the South Korean border in an attempt to make it more difficult for long-range artillery fire to inflict significant damage on its resources, according to intelligence sources.

The sources told the JoongAng Ilbo on Sunday that the North Korean military is relocating its long-range artillery fire, which is set up in mountain caves, from near the southern gate of the caves to the northern gate. The North is also building a protective cover over the facility, the sources said.

“Over several years, South Korea and the United States have prepared against the threat from North Korean long-range artillery fire,” said a military official. “As far as I know, the North Korean military is taking measures to improve the chances that its long-range artillery fire will survive [an attack from the South] by repositioning them inside the [caves].”

Another source said if artillery were relocated to the back of the caves, the South Korea-U.S. alliance would have trouble counterattacking a North Korean attack and hitting the North Korean long-range artillery fire with K9 (155-millimeter) artillery and a multiple launch rocket system.

Only a Joint Direct Attack Munition (a kind of smart bomb) or missiles dropped from a combat plane could destroy the long-range artillery fire moved to the rear, the second source said, adding that it would significantly limit the ways Seoul and Washington could respond to an attack.

The protective cover the North is setting up is meant to counter cluster bombs, the second source said. Cluster bombs are air-dropped weapons that eject a cluster of smaller bombs. The sources said the South Korean military is considering developing new weapons that could destroy this cover.

North Korea’s long-range artillery fire, either a 240-millimeter caliber multiple-launch rocket system or a 170-millimeter self-propelled artillery, claim an effective range of 55 to 65 kilometers (34 to 40 miles). According to the South Korean Defense White Paper and other military data, about 600 such North Korean munitions have been set up near the border, posing a significant threat to Seoul.


By Kim Min-seok [joe@joongang.co.kr]
Well played Kim, well played... :ask:
Umm, caves have mouths that can cave in right? I'm no expert, but it occurs to me that a well placed blast could keep that artillery in the rear of the caves for quite some time. :dono:
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Robert_S wrote:
AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
FBM wrote:Mmm'kaaayyy....http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/ ... id=2924081
North repositions artillery: sources


August 03, 2010
North Korea is repositioning its arsenal near the South Korean border in an attempt to make it more difficult for long-range artillery fire to inflict significant damage on its resources, according to intelligence sources.

The sources told the JoongAng Ilbo on Sunday that the North Korean military is relocating its long-range artillery fire, which is set up in mountain caves, from near the southern gate of the caves to the northern gate. The North is also building a protective cover over the facility, the sources said.

“Over several years, South Korea and the United States have prepared against the threat from North Korean long-range artillery fire,” said a military official. “As far as I know, the North Korean military is taking measures to improve the chances that its long-range artillery fire will survive [an attack from the South] by repositioning them inside the [caves].”

Another source said if artillery were relocated to the back of the caves, the South Korea-U.S. alliance would have trouble counterattacking a North Korean attack and hitting the North Korean long-range artillery fire with K9 (155-millimeter) artillery and a multiple launch rocket system.

Only a Joint Direct Attack Munition (a kind of smart bomb) or missiles dropped from a combat plane could destroy the long-range artillery fire moved to the rear, the second source said, adding that it would significantly limit the ways Seoul and Washington could respond to an attack.

The protective cover the North is setting up is meant to counter cluster bombs, the second source said. Cluster bombs are air-dropped weapons that eject a cluster of smaller bombs. The sources said the South Korean military is considering developing new weapons that could destroy this cover.

North Korea’s long-range artillery fire, either a 240-millimeter caliber multiple-launch rocket system or a 170-millimeter self-propelled artillery, claim an effective range of 55 to 65 kilometers (34 to 40 miles). According to the South Korean Defense White Paper and other military data, about 600 such North Korean munitions have been set up near the border, posing a significant threat to Seoul.


By Kim Min-seok [joe@joongang.co.kr]
Well played Kim, well played... :ask:
Umm, caves have mouths that can cave in right? I'm no expert, but it occurs to me that a well placed blast could keep that artillery in the rear of the caves for quite some time. :dono:
I'd guess so, but then again it's not exactly difficult to blow the cave mouth open again.
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Post by Robert_S » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:42 am

AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
Robert_S wrote: Umm, caves have mouths that can cave in right? I'm no expert, but it occurs to me that a well placed blast could keep that artillery in the rear of the caves for quite some time. :dono:
I'd guess so, but then again it's not exactly difficult to blow the cave mouth open again.
From the inside or the outside?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Robert_S wrote:
AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
Robert_S wrote: Umm, caves have mouths that can cave in right? I'm no expert, but it occurs to me that a well placed blast could keep that artillery in the rear of the caves for quite some time. :dono:
I'd guess so, but then again it's not exactly difficult to blow the cave mouth open again.
From the inside or the outside?
Inside I would suspect, unless they want to destroy their own artillery...

I'm sure, though, that the North would have thought of this already, and have contingency plans (or forcing cave-ins is too unrealistic). Then again, knowing the North... :ask:
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Post by FBM » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:47 am

Just an assumption, but the caves are most likely man-made and carved into solid rock. I imagine only a direct hit into the interior of the cave would have much effect.
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Post by Robert_S » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:54 am

AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:
Robert_S wrote: Umm, caves have mouths that can cave in right? I'm no expert, but it occurs to me that a well placed blast could keep that artillery in the rear of the caves for quite some time. :dono:
I'd guess so, but then again it's not exactly difficult to blow the cave mouth open again.
From the inside or the outside?
Inside I would suspect, unless they want to destroy their own artillery...

I'm sure, though, that the North would have thought of this already, and have contingency plans (or forcing cave-ins is too unrealistic). Then again, knowing the North... :ask:
Who wants to be on the inside of a cave setting off explosions?
I suppose it would depend on what kind of rock the caves are in and the power of the explosives you could deliver to them. I would assume that there is enough good surveillance to find them before they get the forst round of shots off.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: War time/NK's "sacred war" threat...merge

Post by JimC » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:58 am

FBM wrote:Just an assumption, but the caves are most likely man-made and carved into solid rock. I imagine only a direct hit into the interior of the cave would have much effect.
That's what PGMs are for...

But the real point of these weapons is terrorism, rather than attacking military targets in the south. They will be targetted randomly on populated areas of Seoul, and could certainly cause much damage and many casualties before the cave mouths could be attacked, unless it were done pre-emptively during a time of approaching hostilities...
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