We called them scraps. "Fish and chips twice and a bag o' scraps."floppit wrote:Jesus - I'm trying to think what we used to call the tupenny scraps of batter. You could buy a small bag for pennies, what they scooped out after frying the fish - sounds unpleasant but it was just fresh fried batter, pancake crisps! WTF did we call it? Someone else here must have had it. HELP!
My other long standing memory is walking home with warm bags of chips tucked in my jacket in winter - deep heat, hunger and vinegar smells!
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We always called them batter bits.floppit wrote:Jesus - I'm trying to think what we used to call the tupenny scraps of batter. You could buy a small bag for pennies, what they scooped out after frying the fish - sounds unpleasant but it was just fresh fried batter, pancake crisps! WTF did we call it? Someone else here must have had it. HELP!
Uber nom!SockFuckit wrote:Scraps.
Twice with scraps, mushy peas and a buttered bap.
..oh they are used a great deal, but they are sort of overlooked as (much overused word for which apologies) a British 'icon'. When they are all gone, which won't be for a long time up north, people will says 'remember that whole fish and chip shop thing'?..and feel nostalgic about it all.tattuchu wrote:"overlooked, ignored and demeaned"
We used to say scrumps when I was a kid, but I hear scraps round here too now.AshtonBlack wrote:We called them scraps. "Fish and chips twice and a bag o' scraps."
Chip shop curry sauce =Pensioner wrote:Bag a chips and scraps brings a tear to my eyes reminds me of my youth. I was walking home a week or too ago and a chip shop server asked if I wanted curry on my chips. I told them to fuck off, I did not get served and I’m now banned from that shop. Fuck um says I.
Oh, I dunno. Nom I reckon!SockFuckit wrote:Chip shop curry sauce =Pensioner wrote:Bag a chips and scraps brings a tear to my eyes reminds me of my youth. I was walking home a week or too ago and a chip shop server asked if I wanted curry on my chips. I told them to fuck off, I did not get served and I’m now banned from that shop. Fuck um says I.
If you have 99p stores in your neck of the woods they're flogging off packets of Harry Ramsdens Chip Shop Curry SauceRum wrote:Oh, I dunno. Nom I reckon!SockFuckit wrote:Chip shop curry sauce =Pensioner wrote:Bag a chips and scraps brings a tear to my eyes reminds me of my youth. I was walking home a week or too ago and a chip shop server asked if I wanted curry on my chips. I told them to fuck off, I did not get served and I’m now banned from that shop. Fuck um says I.
http://linguapress.com/intermediate/fish-chips.htmIt is the original British fast food; fish 'n' chips, the original "carry-out" meal, has been part of British life for over 100 years. But will it survive much longer? Perhaps only in the form of a luxury for those who can afford it.
Long before the Big Mac was invented, Britain had its own national form of fast food.
"When I was a young man, it was the sort of thing you'd have once or twice a week," remembers 82-year old Arthur Mowbrey. "Before the last war, you'd get a full size portion of cod and chips for sixpence. It was cheap, and good."
Fish 'n' chips was nourishing too. It was a proper meal, that you could eat in the street on your way home from work, or during the lunch-break. Wrapped in newspaper, it would keep warm to the last chip, even on the coldest days of the year.
In the last quarter of a century, things have changed.
"It's not so popular with young people these days," says Lizzie, a teenager. "Most of the time, if young people want to eat out, they'll go to a Burger King or something like that, or a Chinese take-away. Fish 'n' chips is a bit old-fashioned really, I suppose. But there are still cheap chip shops around. I had fish 'n' chips about three weeks ago. We sometimes have it at home, and we go and get it from the chip shop. It saves cooking!"
Thousands of chip shops, however, have closed in the last twenty-five years. Some have been turned into Chinese or Indian take-aways, others have just closed. They have survived best in seaside towns, where the fish is really fresh, and people visit them more as a tradition than for any other reason.
Yet nothing, perhaps, can save the classic fish 'n' chip shop from extinction. Fish 'n' chips wrapped in newspaper is already just a memory of the past. British and European hygiene rules no longer allow food to be wrapped in old papers, so today's carry-out chip shops use new paper or styrofoam cartons. Of course, you can still eat fish and chips with your fingers if you want, but there are now plastic throw-away forks for those who don't want to get greasy fingers!
Yet in spite of these changes, the classic fish 'n' chip shop could disappear from British streets in a few years' time, for a completely different reason; lack of fish.
For over ten years, European agriculture ministers have been trying to solve the fish problem, but with little success. As a result of modern industrial fishing, some types of fish are facing extinction in the North Sea and Atlantic. "Overfishing in the North Sea has reached crisis levels," say Greenpeace. Quotas have been introduced, but each time there are new restrictions, fishermen in Britain, France, Spain and other countries protest, because jobs are lost.
Sadly, this is inevitable; and unless strict quotas are applied, thousands of European fishermen could lose their jobs, as there will be few fish left to catch (at least, few of the kinds of fish that people want to eat). One way or the other, sea fish will become rarer, and therefore more expensive.
The gradual disappearance of the traditional British fish 'n' chips shop is therefore bound to continue. Fish and chips, however, will survive as a speciality in pubs and restaurants, and in new up-market fish restaurants. Comfortable, more expensive fish restaurants, with chairs and tables, have existed for a long time of course, alongside stand-up carry-out fish 'n' chip shops. In the years to come, they may be the only type of fish 'n' chip restaurant to survive.
Every town in Britain had its fish 'n' chip shops. No British town is more than 150 km. from a sea port, and most are much closer; once railways were built in the nineteenth century, fresh sea fish could easily be bought in all British towns. Cheaper than meat, sea fish became a popular source of protein ; by 1870, "fish and chip shops" were springing up all over the country. For a hundred years, they were the classic popular restaurant, British style.
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