When to surrender?

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Re: When to surrender?

Post by klr » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:06 am

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klr wrote:...or a postmodernist essay generator. :demon:
How does anyone read that stuff (I mean the real postmodernist essays)? :banghead:
I have tried to read them, but my brain has a well-honed filter which just translates them all as :bs:
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Re: When to surrender?

Post by Pappa » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:16 am

klr wrote:
Pappa wrote:
klr wrote:...or a postmodernist essay generator. :demon:
How does anyone read that stuff (I mean the real postmodernist essays)? :banghead:
I have tried to read them, but my brain has a well-honed filter which just translates them all as :bs:
I studied that crap. That's why I lost interest in photography while doing my degree. The only things worse than postmodernist theory essays for unreadable bullshit are theology theory (in particular theological speeches given by Rowan Williams). :cry:
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Re: When to surrender?

Post by Clinton Huxley » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:45 pm

They didn't surrender at Hastings. Didn't do those blighters much good either.
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Re: When to surrender?

Post by Ian » Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:45 am

You surrender when Chuck Norris tells you to surrender.

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Re: When to surrender?

Post by Weston » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:10 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Should Wellington have given up when Waterloo was going against him? What if Blücher had been delayed in a brothel? :dono:

Where there's hope... It's genetic. Those that gave up too early got weaned out of the gene pool. :tea:
Wellington had stated before the battle that if Blücher didn't turn up he probably would not be able to stop Bonaparte. In that case he planned to leave the continent by escape routes on Antwerp and Ostend, with the British troops, leaving his allies to fend for themselves.

The question is maybe shouldn't Napoleon have given up? About 100,000 troops under Wellington, 110,000 under Blücher. About 200,000 Russians under Barclay de Tolly were coming and the Austrians under Schwarzenberg, also far more than a 100,000, were approaching his eastern border. The Italians (bless their hearts) were mobilizing and the Spaniards were debating whether they would join the festivities.

Well, he didn't give up.


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Re: When to surrender?

Post by Trolldor » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:25 am

Ian wrote:You surrender when Chuck Norris tells you to surrender.
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Re: When to surrender?

Post by Cunt » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:11 am

Gawdzilla wrote:On a micro scale: I've watched men give up and die when they were close to rescue. I refused to give up, and I'm here and they're not.
Since surrender often leads to survival (the US army takes prisoners, does it not?) this is merely a good reason for you.

Interesting topic. There is definitely a strong part of me that will tilt a fucking windmill.
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On a macro scale: The South didn't have anything to lose. They felt it couldn't get any worse than it was, so why give up. Them hillbillies are "bloody-minded" to a degree few people could conceive.
Getting 'bloody-minded' participants would contribute. I wonder if maybe it is just the regular human need to be perceived as consistent.

Whatever the reasons, when you have stood so hard behind something that you would bet not only your life, but your best friends', it might be really tough to go back. (psychologically, I mean)

I suppose some of them are assembling an honour guard for Valhalla...

Probably almost as many reasons as soldiers who do it.
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