Washington worked for the Continental Congress. The Congress initiated the war knowing they couldn't defeat the English Army by themselves. (And no, it wasn't clear at all.) As for the Confederates, on what do you base that premise?Seraph wrote:Did Washington initiate the war? I thought it was clear I was talking about "forward defense", and I think Ashton Black was implying that as well. As for the Confederates, it is also clear that they did think they had sufficient resources to win because they could reasonably regard British support as part of them.Gawdzilla wrote:On the other hand, Washington had to plead for arms and troops all through the Revolutionary War. The South knew they didn't have the resources to fight the North in the ACW, but they counted on England to come to their aid.
I'd like to hear of an instance where an invader initiated a war in the full expectation to fail on account of not being willing or able to commit sufficient resources for success.
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And pretty much WW2 as well..born-again-atheist wrote:Well... actually, in WWI The US came in as a sort of tag along, so.... you know...
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Yeah, we were smart enough to put a couple of oceans between us and the troublemakers.Elessarina wrote:And pretty much WW2 as well..born-again-atheist wrote:Well... actually, in WWI The US came in as a sort of tag along, so.... you know...
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I think the term is "fashionably late."Gawdzilla wrote:Yeah, we were smart enough to put a couple of oceans between us and the troublemakers.Elessarina wrote:And pretty much WW2 as well..born-again-atheist wrote:Well... actually, in WWI The US came in as a sort of tag along, so.... you know...
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I prefer the term, "Not dying so soon."AshtonBlack wrote:I think the term is "fashionably late."Gawdzilla wrote:Yeah, we were smart enough to put a couple of oceans between us and the troublemakers.Elessarina wrote:And pretty much WW2 as well..born-again-atheist wrote:Well... actually, in WWI The US came in as a sort of tag along, so.... you know...
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The Korean War was the red-headed step-child of wars. And technically, it's still going on. They never signed off on ending it. Politics... 
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They fight it out on the soccer field now.FBM wrote:The Korean War was the red-headed step-child of wars. And technically, it's still going on. They never signed off on ending it. Politics...
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The South just won 1-0 a few days ago in a WC qualifier. Today NK launched a "rocket" (read: missle test). Three months after I got here in '96, there was an incursion of 28 NK commandos who got stranded when their submarine crapped out off the east coast. They were chased for 2 months, living off roots, berries etc, before it was over. 27 killed, 1 captured wounded, 1 escaped back to the North. Of those killed, about half knelt and submitted to execution by their commander, who subequently offed himself. There have been smaller-scale repeat versions since, and there have been fatal naval clashes every other year or so in the Yellow Sea. It's a nagging, wimpy war, all things considered. Stubborn lot, these. I think they ought to shit or get off the pot, but nobody here is asking for my opinion. Tomorrow is just another day.leo-rcc wrote:They fight it out on the soccer field now.FBM wrote:The Korean War was the red-headed step-child of wars. And technically, it's still going on. They never signed off on ending it. Politics...
Genghis Khan vs China, c 1217. Glad I wasn't there. At least, not there and Chinese.
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I saw the game. That was no soccer match, there should have been way more red and yellow cards.FBM wrote:The South just won 1-0 a few days ago in a WC qualifier.leo-rcc wrote:They fight it out on the soccer field now.FBM wrote:The Korean War was the red-headed step-child of wars. And technically, it's still going on. They never signed off on ending it. Politics...
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No joke! It was painful to watch. My students (university-level) weren't even very proud of it. A win is a win, I guess, but...a good game would have been more satisfying.leo-rcc wrote:I saw the game. That was no soccer match, there should have been way more red and yellow cards.FBM wrote:The South just won 1-0 a few days ago in a WC qualifier.leo-rcc wrote:They fight it out on the soccer field now.FBM wrote:The Korean War was the red-headed step-child of wars. And technically, it's still going on. They never signed off on ending it. Politics...
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WWII from the American POV.

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WWI from Dieppe alone:Ian wrote:WWII from the American POV.
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The Russians would have 50+ of those walls, two of which would be solely for victims of the holocaust.Ian wrote:WWII from the American POV.
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"That people die in wars, so it may be a good idea to stop that shit."leo-rcc wrote:WWI from Dieppe alone:Ian wrote:WWII from the American POV.
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Absolutely correct.Xamonas Chegwé wrote: ...
The Russians would have 50+ of those walls, two of which would be solely for victims of the holocaust.
Although, as I always point out to people: The fact that the US had the lowest per capita death rate of any major combatant in WW II wouldn't be of any consolation to, say, a Marine about to land on some heavily defended Pacific island. Some of those units suffered appalling casualty rates, right up to the end of the Okinawa campaign.
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