Classroom creationism atheists can live with?

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Post by Trolldor » Sun May 30, 2010 10:18 am

That would be our democratically elected Government.
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Post by FBM » Sun May 30, 2010 10:21 am

Don Juan Demarco wrote:That would be our democratically elected Government.
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Post by RuleBritannia » Sun May 30, 2010 1:33 pm

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Post by charlou » Sun May 30, 2010 2:43 pm

Don Juan Demarco wrote:That would be our democratically elected Government.
Like there's been much to choose between ... :ddpan:
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Post by Twiglet » Sun May 30, 2010 2:48 pm

Charlou wrote:
Don Juan Demarco wrote:That would be our democratically elected Government.
Like there's been much to choose between ... :ddpan:
It's why more people need to join the Australian Sex Party, which helps to counteract the power acquired by the Family first wankers in who gets preference votes, which is what's pushing the religious agenda.

The Australian Sex Party are f'kn great.

This isn't a wind up :D

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Re: Classroom creationism atheists can live with?

Post by charlou » Sun May 30, 2010 3:06 pm

Twiglet wrote:
Charlou wrote:
Don Juan Demarco wrote:That would be our democratically elected Government.
Like there's been much to choose between ... :ddpan:
It's why more people need to join the Australian Sex Party, which helps to counteract the power acquired by the Family first wankers in who gets preference votes, which is what's pushing the religious agenda.

The Australian Sex Party are f'kn great.

This isn't a wind up :D
Actually, I know a couple of members ... :tup:



Also, The secular party is worth a look ...
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Re: Classroom creationism atheists can live with?

Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Sun May 30, 2010 9:28 pm

LOL WUT?

In History? :? Sorry, I was under the assumption that History was a class in which you teach facts and discuss contradictions in otherwise historically accurate accounts. I must have made a grave error in thinking that then.
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Post by Trolldor » Sun May 30, 2010 11:32 pm

Charlou wrote:
Twiglet wrote:
Charlou wrote:
Don Juan Demarco wrote:That would be our democratically elected Government.
Like there's been much to choose between ... :ddpan:
It's why more people need to join the Australian Sex Party, which helps to counteract the power acquired by the Family first wankers in who gets preference votes, which is what's pushing the religious agenda.

The Australian Sex Party are f'kn great.

This isn't a wind up :D
Actually, I know a couple of members ... :tup:



Also, The secular party is worth a look ...
Bullocks they are, bunch of arrogant fucking twats. So fucking short-sighted it's amazing.
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Post by ficklefiend » Sun May 30, 2010 11:44 pm

Sounds like their teaching it in a sort of "darwin vs. the church" way, which does seem acceptable. As long as darwin wins. :levi:
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Post by charlou » Mon May 31, 2010 4:29 am

Don Juan Demarco wrote:
Charlou wrote:Also, The secular party is worth a look ...
Bullocks they are, bunch of arrogant fucking twats. So fucking short-sighted it's amazing.
Short, and narrow sighted as it turns out. :ddpan:
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Post by JimC » Mon May 31, 2010 4:38 am

ficklefiend wrote:Sounds like their teaching it in a sort of "darwin vs. the church" way, which does seem acceptable. As long as darwin wins. :levi:
The only problem is that the cretinists will consider it a victory if their crapulence is put into the public education area as worthy of serious academic study.

In some ways it is, but the PR spin they will put on such an inclusion is not worth it...
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Re: Classroom creationism atheists can live with?

Post by Hermit » Mon May 31, 2010 4:39 am

Charlou wrote:
Don Juan Demarco wrote:
Charlou wrote:Also, The secular party is worth a look ...
Bullocks they are, bunch of arrogant fucking twats. So fucking short-sighted it's amazing.
Short, and narrow sighted as it turns out. :ddpan:
As a political party the Secular Party of Australia makes the Keystone Cops look competent. By way of illustration, read this email exchange. I left out headers and footers. The reply is from the president of the party.

Query:
  • Searching your web site I found only one instance where the word
    'curriculum' is mentioned, and that was in an essay written in 2006.
    I find the draft National School Curriculum outrageous. Permitting
    expositions of creationism and intelligent design is not a great
    deal less absurd than permitting an exposition of the stork theory
    of reproduction. None of these have a place anywhere near schools.

    Do you have any plans to address the issue and/or publish some
    researched analysis and post some resources on the matter? I realise
    that the Secular Party is most likely very much under-resourced, but
    if it is aiming to have an impact as a political organisation I feel
    it really needs to focus on current issues, especially important
    ones such as education in Australia.
Reply:
  • The main policy of our party is to remove government funding for
    schools that indoctrinate children.
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Post by Trolldor » Mon May 31, 2010 5:32 am

That about sums it up, Seraph. Anything outside of defecating on religion is unheard of to them, and an unspeakable blasphemy.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Intelligent design to be taught in Queensland schools

Post by Godless Libertarian » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:45 pm

CREATIONISM and intelligent design will be taught in Queensland state schools for the first time as part of the new national curriculum.

Creationists dismiss the science of evolution, instead believing that living things are best explained by an intelligent being or God, rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

The issue of creationism being taught in schools has caused huge controversy in the US, where some fundamentalist religious schools teach it as a science subject instead of Darwin's theory of evolution.

In Queensland schools, creationism will be offered for discussion in the subject of ancient history, under the topic of "controversies".

Teachers are still formulating a response to the draft national curriculum, scheduled to be introduced next year.

Queensland History Teachers' Association head Kay Bishop said the curriculum asked students to develop their historical skills in an "investigation of a controversial issue" such as "human origins (eg, Darwin's theory of evolution and its critics").

"It's opening up opportunities for debate and discussion, not to push a particular view," Ms Bishop said. Classroom debate about issues encouraged critical thinking – an important tool, she said.

Associated Christian Schools executive officer Lynne Doneley welcomed the draft curriculum, saying it cemented the position of a faith-based approach to teaching.

"We talk to students from a faith science basis, but we're not biased in the delivery of curriculum," Mrs Doneley said. "We say, 'This is where we're coming from' but allow students to make up their own minds."

But Griffith University humanities lecturer Paul Williams said it was important to be cautious about such content.

"It's important that education authorities are vigilant that this is not a blank cheque to push theological barrows," Mr Williams said.

"I would be loath to see it taught as theory.

"It's up there with the world being occupied by aliens since Roswell."

Ms Bishop said there were bigger problems with the national curriculum.

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