Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Any movie about Robin Hood.

Any movie about King Arthur.

Any movie about The Old West.

Any movie about Pearl harbour?

Especially if they can't spell it right.

[Ian]

Thirteen Days just came to mind. I really like that movie, but there was plenty of inaccurate stuff in it.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Brigham Young (1940)

I win. Lock thread.

[PsychoSerenity]

Any movie about Robin Hood.

Oh, I don't know, this one seems fairly accurate.

[Ian]

Brigham Young (1940)

I win. Lock thread.

I've only seen the 3-second clip shown in Religulous:
"This is not an easy religion..."

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Brigham Young (1940)

I win. Lock thread.

I've only seen the 3-seconf clip shown in Religulous:
"This is not an easy religion..."

I'm so wanting to "fix" that.

"This is not an made-up religion..."

"This is not an intelligent religion..."

"This is not an totally whacko religion..."

[Geoff]

LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)

WHERE THE FUCK WAS TOM BOMBADIL?
WHERE WAS THE SCOURGING OF THE SHIRE?

[Pappa]

LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)

WHERE THE FUCK WAS TOM BOMBADIL?
WHERE WAS THE SCOURGING OF THE SHIRE?

It's only a movie.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)

WHERE THE FUCK WAS TOM BOMBADIL?
WHERE WAS THE SCOURGING OF THE SHIRE?

It's only a movie.

It's LOTR, you Philistine.

[Pappa]

LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)

WHERE THE FUCK WAS TOM BOMBADIL?
WHERE WAS THE SCOURGING OF THE SHIRE?

It's only a movie.

It's LOTR, you Philistine.

I thought the films were better than the book... because I think the book is shit.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)

WHERE THE FUCK WAS TOM BOMBADIL?
WHERE WAS THE SCOURGING OF THE SHIRE?

It's only a movie.

It's LOTR, you Philistine.

I thought the films were better than the book... because I think the book is shit.

Yeah, the "children's illustrated" edition wasn't a straw on the real book. A few years and you'll be ready for the grown up version.

[Pappa]

Yeah, the "children's illustrated" edition wasn't a straw on the real book. A few years and you'll be ready for the grown up version.

I think the grown up one is completely infantile.... seriously.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Yeah, the "children's illustrated" edition wasn't a straw on the real book. A few years and you'll be ready for the grown up version.

I think the grown up one is completely infantile.... seriously.

It's far from a la-de-da fairy tale. It's a struggle for survival between two opposing systems of life. Don't let the fact that the word "elf" appears in the book. Those boys are warriors, they have to be to even exist. And victory in the war means their own system will disappear from Middle Earth. So even if they "win", they lose. It's only how they will go out, through the Grey Havens or skewered on a orc sword, that they get to choose. The Elven folk are the real atheists of the book. They don't have souls and they know it. If they die, they're dead. And yet they lead good lives whenever they can, and valiant ones when they must. They always leave the earth better than they found it. I would happily take a life as a warrior elf in the service of Elrond or Gladriel.

[Pappa]

Yeah, the "children's illustrated" edition wasn't a straw on the real book. A few years and you'll be ready for the grown up version.

I think the grown up one is completely infantile.... seriously.

It's far from a la-de-da fairy tale. It's a struggle for survival between two opposing systems of life. Don't let the fact that the word "elf" appears in the book. Those boys are warriors, they have to be to even exist. And victory in the war means their own system will disappear from Middle Earth. So even if they "win", they lose. It's only how they will go out, through the Grey Havens or skewered on a orc sword, that they get to choose. The Elven folk are the real atheists of the book. They don't have souls and they know it. If they die, they're dead. And yet they lead good lives whenever they can, and valiant ones when they must. They always leave the earth better than they found it. I would happily take a life as a warrior elf in the service of Elrond or Gladriel.

I find Tolkein's story-telling technique to me infantile, almost patronising. I never felt there was any depth to it, no matter how much detail he put in.