Atheism and homosexuality

[Coito ergo sum]

I have no problem with homosexuals doing what they need to do in private, I see homosexuality as a disability, since there is no evolutionary desire for a homosexual to have sex with a woman and in turn produce off-spring, which is essentially the propose of all living species, i.e. to propagate their genes through asexual/sexual production. For lesbians this is not a problem in the sense as in evolution as rape of females within a species actually has an evolutionary benefit.

You must have a disability then if you fuck a woman with a condom or have oral sex

Well, fucking with a condom sometimes feels like a disability....

[Coito ergo sum]

@ ...idle

You don't have to worry about gangs of gay mean raping you up the arse. Really. It's just bullshit you got told in school by kids who knew no better.

Time to get over it.

I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.

I was flattered when that happened to me, but since I don't find willies attractive. I smiled and said no thanks.

Ditto! I got my arse grabbed in a Gay bar in Leeds once. It cheered me up no end!!

Getting grabbed would be problematic for me. I'd have to draw the line there and impress upon that person the importance that they not touch me without consent. In most places, ass grabbing and such is a minor sexual assault crime.

[Coito ergo sum]

I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.

Lucky for you.. it's nice when someone finds you attractive.

There are some out there who view it as if getting hit on by a gay person means that you must be "sending out signals" or "seem gay."

[CJ]

@ ...idle

You don't have to worry about gangs of gay mean raping you up the arse. Really. It's just bullshit you got told in school by kids who knew no better.

Time to get over it.

I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.

I was flattered when that happened to me, but since I don't find willies attractive. I smiled and said no thanks.

Ditto! I got my arse grabbed in a Gay bar in Leeds once. It cheered me up no end!!

Getting grabbed would be problematic for me. I'd have to draw the line there and impress upon that person the importance that they not touch me without consent. In most places, ass grabbing and such is a minor sexual assault crime.

It is in the UK, if you complain or a police officer witnessed it and pressed a prosecution.

[CookieJon]

Ditto! I got my arse grabbed in a Gay bar in Leeds once. It cheered me up no end!!

Getting grabbed would be problematic for me. I'd have to draw the line there and impress upon that person the importance that they not touch me without consent. In most places, ass grabbing and such is a minor sexual assault crime.

It is in the UK, if you complain or a police officer witnessed it and pressed a prosecution.

"Officer, I have a complaint... I went into a gay bar and a gay man touched my arse!"

[CJ]

Ditto! I got my arse grabbed in a Gay bar in Leeds once. It cheered me up no end!!

Getting grabbed would be problematic for me. I'd have to draw the line there and impress upon that person the importance that they not touch me without consent. In most places, ass grabbing and such is a minor sexual assault crime.

It is in the UK, if you complain or a police officer witnessed it and pressed a prosecution.

"Officer, I have a complaint... I went into a gay bar and a gay man touched my arse!"

Granted it would be a difficult prosecution to get the Police to take up, but the act of arse grabbing is technically an illegal act irrespective of the location if the grabee did not want to be grabbed.

[fordo]

Can we get back to the baby-eating now?

im vegetarian, and i really dont like children/babies at all for anyreason, cant fathom why all my friends and relatives insist on making the noisy stinky little pricks any how?...i know i must be a bad man ?

[Coito ergo sum]

Ditto! I got my arse grabbed in a Gay bar in Leeds once. It cheered me up no end!!

Getting grabbed would be problematic for me. I'd have to draw the line there and impress upon that person the importance that they not touch me without consent. In most places, ass grabbing and such is a minor sexual assault crime.

It is in the UK, if you complain or a police officer witnessed it and pressed a prosecution.

"Officer, I have a complaint... I went into a gay bar and a gay man touched my arse!"

Nobody said it was in a gay bar. But, does going into a gay bar imply consent to fondling and groping? That's like saying if a woman goes into a singles bar, her ass is up for grabs too.

[CookieJon]

Ditto! I got my arse grabbed in a Gay bar in Leeds once. It cheered me up no end!!

Getting grabbed would be problematic for me. I'd have to draw the line there and impress upon that person the importance that they not touch me without consent. In most places, ass grabbing and such is a minor sexual assault crime.

It is in the UK, if you complain or a police officer witnessed it and pressed a prosecution.

"Officer, I have a complaint... I went into a gay bar and a gay man touched my arse!"

Nobody said it was in a gay bar.

Well they did... read up I even underlined it for you.

But, does going into a gay bar imply consent to fondling and groping? That's like saying if a woman goes into a singles bar, her ass is up for grabs too.

Yes I do see your point, and I was kinda just being facetious.

However, the OP was opining that gay men in particular are despicable because they'll hit on you if you're straight. You've now drawn the discussion to the topic of how people in general sometimes make unwanted advances on other people, neutralising the argument that this behaviour is particularly problematic of gay men. Well done!

[Coito ergo sum]

However, the OP was opining that gay men in particular are despicable because they'll hit on you if you're straight. You've now drawn the discussion to the topic of how people in general sometimes make unwanted advances on other people, neutralising the argument that this behaviour is particularly problematic of gay men. Well done!

Of course it's not particularly problematic of gay men, at least not that I'm aware of.

[Link]

Ditto! I got my arse grabbed in a Gay bar in Leeds once. It cheered me up no end!!

Getting grabbed would be problematic for me. I'd have to draw the line there and impress upon that person the importance that they not touch me without consent. In most places, ass grabbing and such is a minor sexual assault crime.

It is in the UK, if you complain or a police officer witnessed it and pressed a prosecution.

"Officer, I have a complaint... I went into a gay bar and a gay man touched my arse!"

Granted it would be a difficult prosecution to get the Police to take up, but the act of arse grabbing is technically an illegal act irrespective of the location if the grabee did not want to be grabbed.

I was out drinking with my girlfriend, my mates and her mates and her gay friend actually grabbed my crotch as he walked past I told him in no uncertain terms that while i had no problem with his sexuality, I did have a problem with someone i've only just met grabbing my manhood!

After that was clarified all was fine again and everyone ended up having a good night, it turns out that is just an aspect of how he acts when drunk, One of my mates is at the complete opposite end of the "spectrum" with his homosexuality he doesn't openly flaunt it, It's just a part of who he is.

Back onto the OP, I think the reason Atheists in general are accepting of homosexuality is for the simple reason that when you aren't looking at it through the God goggles it's really just not a big deal. From my experience it's the God Squad that is so obsessed with where a man sticks his Purple Headed Love Hammer the rest of us understand that although it's a characteristic of someone's personality, it doesn't have to define them.

[Geoff]

Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?

Silly question.

The real question is, why is there an objection to homosexuality within the religious community (Catholic priests excepted)? Sure it's in the {insert holy book of choice}, but so are a lot of other things that now are apparently OK. The OT is full of things that "thou shalt not", but they're very selective about which ones should be enforced.

[CookieJon]

I was out drinking with my girlfriend, my mates and her mates and her gay friend actually grabbed my crotch as he walked past I told him in no uncertain terms that while i had no problem with his sexuality, I did have a problem with someone i've only just met grabbing my manhood!

And rightly so.

...One of my mates is at the complete opposite end of the "spectrum" with his homosexuality he doesn't openly flaunt it, It's just a part of who he is.

I do note, however, that you "openly flaunt" your heterosexuality, otherwise you wouldn't be seen in public drinking with your girlfriend, now would you?

[Link]

I was out drinking with my girlfriend, my mates and her mates and her gay friend actually grabbed my crotch as he walked past I told him in no uncertain terms that while i had no problem with his sexuality, I did have a problem with someone i've only just met grabbing my manhood!

And rightly so.

...One of my mates is at the complete opposite end of the "spectrum" with his homosexuality he doesn't openly flaunt it, It's just a part of who he is.

I do note, however, that you "openly flaunt" your heterosexuality, otherwise you wouldn't be seen in public drinking with your girlfriend, now would you?

Haha! a fair point CookieJon, flaunt was perhaps the wrong word....

I was just trying to make the point that you can't box all Homosexuals or all Heterosexuals into neat little stereotypes, I'm sure most people on Ratz agree and the comment may have been unnecessary here but i've had to make it abundantly clear to a few aquaintances of mine in the past (unfortunately the area where i live has a higher than usual infestation of bigots that don't like to question their irrationality too often)

[Thinking Aloud]

This thread got me thinking about the terminology - or lack of it - that we have for describing our relationships...

I've started a new thread here