Violation of Arizona law to be illegally in the US!

[Coito ergo sum]

I hereby formally object to the illegal immigrants who landed in "New England" in the 16th and 17th Centuries. The buggers ought to go home NOW!

They're dead. You'll have to exhume the bodies and begin removal/deportation proceedings posthumously.

And don't get me started on the Siberian Land Bridge.

When England ejects the Anglo-Saxons back to Germany and Holland, we'll talk about it.

I love how the United States even having an immigration law at all is somehow wrong...because people 35,000 years ago, and 400 years ago came here, that somehow means that now the doors need to be just left wide open with no restrictions.

[Trolldor]

Cause, I mean, it's totally not like America fucking around with the third world for the past few decades has to take any responsibility for its actions.

[Coito ergo sum]

Cause, I mean, it's totally not like America fucking around with the third world for the past few decades has to take any responsibility for its actions.

With all do respect, that's rather vague, don't you think? America, you say, was "fucking around with the third world" so.....what? What should the US do regarding immigration? What would satisfy you? Elimination of US immigration law? Just let whoever wants in get in? What do you suggest? First come, first served?

Or, some form of orderly, uniform, equally applied set of rules for legally entering the country?

Further, I don't recall the UK "taking responsibility" for an Empire, or France for its Empire or Spain for its Empire, by opening their borders, come one come all, they too have immigration laws that they enforce. Can the US have immigration laws too?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I hereby formally object to the illegal immigrants who landed in "New England" in the 16th and 17th Centuries. The buggers ought to go home NOW!

They're dead. You'll have to exhume the bodies and begin removal/deportation proceedings posthumously.

You think I wouldn't?

And don't get me started on the Siberian Land Bridge.

When England ejects the Anglo-Saxons back to Germany and Holland, we'll talk about it.

I love how the United States even having an immigration law at all is somehow wrong...because people 35,000 years ago, and 400 years ago came here, that somehow means that now the doors need to be just left wide open with no restrictions.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of position that "We're here, you're not, too bad" is a sound immigration policy.

[Trolldor]

The British, French and Spanish empires conquerd foreign territory and claimed it as their own. The moment they did that they became responsible for its management. The US just plants mines in harbours and lets some obscure faction take the blame.

[Coito ergo sum]

I hereby formally object to the illegal immigrants who landed in "New England" in the 16th and 17th Centuries. The buggers ought to go home NOW!

They're dead. You'll have to exhume the bodies and begin removal/deportation proceedings posthumously.

You think I wouldn't?

If you do, they might look like this....



I don't know though...if they have green card, doesn't that make them not illegal?

And don't get me started on the Siberian Land Bridge.

When England ejects the Anglo-Saxons back to Germany and Holland, we'll talk about it.

I love how the United States even having an immigration law at all is somehow wrong...because people 35,000 years ago, and 400 years ago came here, that somehow means that now the doors need to be just left wide open with no restrictions.

Just pointing out the hypocrisy of position that "We're here, you're not, too bad" is a sound immigration policy.

Well, that's not US immigration policy anymore than it's the immigration policy of any country. All present day countries have peoples living in them that in some time in the past migrated from other places (at times when there weren't immigration laws). Now, the US has immigration laws just like every other country on the planet. That's not hypocritical. That's a change in circumstance based on the fact that we now have a 310,000,000 population in the US and there has to be system, like in every other country, to admit people on a regular, fair and equitable basis.

[Coito ergo sum]

The British, French and Spanish empires conquerd foreign territory and claimed it as their own. The moment they did that they became responsible for its management. The US just plants mines in harbours and lets some obscure faction take the blame.

Non sequitur.

Have a comment regarding the OP? Or, any suggestion about what the US should on the issue of immigration?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Whatever.

[Trolldor]

The British, French and Spanish empires conquerd foreign territory and claimed it as their own. The moment they did that they became responsible for its management. The US just plants mines in harbours and lets some obscure faction take the blame.

Non sequitur.

Have a comment regarding the OP? Or, any suggestion about what the US should on the issue of immigration?

Deport you back to where you came from, along with all your foreigner kind.

[Coito ergo sum]

The British, French and Spanish empires conquerd foreign territory and claimed it as their own. The moment they did that they became responsible for its management. The US just plants mines in harbours and lets some obscure faction take the blame.

Non sequitur.

Have a comment regarding the OP? Or, any suggestion about what the US should on the issue of immigration?

Deport you back to where you came from, along with all your foreigner kind.

Another non sequitur.

I'm from the U.S. and I live in the U.S.

It's "removal" not "deportation." Hasn't been "deportation" for about 15 years.

Once again, it's not about "foreigners" per se. More "foreigners" immigrate to the US and come here as non-immigrants than any other country in the world. There is not a shred of evidence the US is hostile to or rejects "foreigners."

A record 1,046,539 persons were naturalized as U.S. citizens in 2008 -- The leading countries of birth of the new citizens were Mexico, India and the Philippines - so you can rest assured, there wasn't a preference for whites.

As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than any other country in the world. In 2006, a total of 1,266,264 immigrants became legal permanent residents of the United States, up from 601,516 in 1987, 849,807 in 2000, and 1,122,373 in 2005. The top twelve migrant-sending countries in 2006, by country of birth, were Mexico (173,753), People's Republic of China (87,345), Philippines (74,607), India (61,369), Cuba (45,614), Colombia (43,151), Dominican Republic (38,069), El Salvador (31,783), Vietnam (30,695), Jamaica (24,976), South Korea (24,386), Guatemala (24,146), Other countries - 606,370. Once again, doesn't look too "hostile" to the "third world" now does it?

Since 1965 the number of first- generation immigrants living in the United States has quadrupled. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigratio ... ted_States

Once again, do you have anything to say about the subject? Or, just more off topic non sequiturs and derails?

[Trolldor]

Shut up you damn foreigner. Nobody cares about where you're from, it's your fault you were born there so you're gonna have to pay for it. Go back home.

[Pappa]

When England ejects the Anglo-Saxons back to Germany and Holland, we'll talk about it.

Now you're talking!

[Hermit]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[Coito ergo sum]

Shut up you damn foreigner. Nobody cares about where you're from, it's your fault you were born there so you're gonna have to pay for it. Go back home.

[Coito ergo sum]

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That's an interesting cartoon, but hardly in any way reflective of reality. I take the meaning of the cartoon as an attempt to illustrate the irony of the US claiming to welcome foreign "huddled masses", but trodding the Mexicans underfoot.

The problem with that, however, is that in no way are Mexicans being ill-treated by the U.S. According to the latest statistics of the people who become US citizens, more are from Mexico than any other country, and similarly, of those who become permanent residents of the US, more are from Mexico than any other country. Therefore, more legal immigrants are from Mexico than any other country. They apply. They meet the criteria for a green card, and they are permitted to live in the US in greater numbers than nationals of any other country.

The only ones the US is seeking to remove are those that decided that they did not have to obey the law.

In addition, overall, more people immigrate to the United States than any other country in the world. How then can it be that the US would get labeled as being hostile to immigrants?



And, what is the complaint? That the US must not only allow the most legal immigration in the world, but must also simply eliminate its immigration laws or not enforce them? Comply if it suits you, and if not just come on in?