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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Ele » Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:11 pm

The Red Fox wrote:This thread reminded me of this:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/gay-te ... tian,2888/

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that was very funny

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by ...Idle » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:31 pm

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virphen wrote:@ ...idle

You don't have to worry about gangs of gay mean raping you up the arse. Really. It's just bullshit you got told in school by kids who knew no better.

Time to get over it.

I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.
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It gets annoying in a club/bar environment since you know most folks are just after a quick shag.

Personally I think you're going to the wrong bars if that keeps happening, but in any case, what a funny little solipsistic attitude you have!

I assume you would never hit on a girl in one of the "club/bar environments" you frequent either, just in case she doesn't appreciate your advances as much as you don't appreciate unwanted advances from others.
Personally, I don't go out to a bar for a shag, if I needed one I would pay for one I actually prefer it. I go out to drink and get high when I go to a club/bar, sometimes its a pleasant surprise if a good looking girl hits on you, and of course then I would flirt back with her, but unless I am totally coked up off my head I do not hit on girls in a bar/club I just don't go there looking for a shag I go there for a drink and to get high. If I need a shag I go see an escort.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by ...Idle » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:34 pm

Ele wrote:
...Idle wrote:
ele wrote: But we all like sex up the bum, don't we?... cummon... you don't know it until you've tried it the right way (as a consenting adult of course)
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The only time anything is going up my ass is when my wife is wearing a strap-on, and I'm being her slave. :shifty:
So (notions of adultery aside) what's the difference between a strap-on and a real one if the person attached to the digit is someone you know and care about and love and trust... or just fancy? If there is a difference in our minds, what is the root of that difference? It is conditioning. And what is the root of that conditioning? Religion. Thou shalt not.... ewww etc
Well personally, I would be attracted enough to a woman to agree to it. If I was in a situation with a man I would not be attracted to him there would be no sexual stimulation for me to agree to having his penis up my ass. I think you have to be sexually turned on by the person.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Tigger » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:35 pm

...Idle wrote:
CookieJon wrote:
...Idle wrote:
virphen wrote:@ ...idle

You don't have to worry about gangs of gay mean raping you up the arse. Really. It's just bullshit you got told in school by kids who knew no better.

Time to get over it.

I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.
...
It gets annoying in a club/bar environment since you know most folks are just after a quick shag.

Personally I think you're going to the wrong bars if that keeps happening, but in any case, what a funny little solipsistic attitude you have!

I assume you would never hit on a girl in one of the "club/bar environments" you frequent either, just in case she doesn't appreciate your advances as much as you don't appreciate unwanted advances from others.
Personally, I don't go out to a bar for a shag, if I needed one I would pay for one I actually prefer it. I go out to drink and get high when I go to a club/bar, sometimes its a pleasant surprise if a good looking girl hits on you, and of course then I would flirt back with her, but unless I am totally coked up off my head I do not hit on girls in a bar/club I just don't go there looking for a shag I go there for a drink and to get high. If I need a shag I go see an escort.
Please see my "about me" section ... :pardon:
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by ...Idle » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:37 pm

Tigger wrote:
...Idle wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:...Idle, how do you know you're not gay? There is a fool-proof test, you know.
Most of the time I am not sexually attracted to guys!
And the rest of the time you are?

I don't think everyone is 100% straight all the time. After reading some of the views I find that maybe like one poster said if I experienced the discrimination then I would be proud of being a gay too just to make a statement, that gays exist they are humans and they are here to stay. As I kind of see it being a parallel to my own position of being an Ex-Muslim something which I am proud of.
I suspect some of your current stance may be ascribed to, and a hangup from, your previous intolerance of gays due to your own former personal disability that you say you have now discarded, but maybe not in its entirety, namely Islam. Grass roots run deep sometimes.
I agree with you, I have found that even as an atheist, at times I have been subconsciously sexist and I feel very ashamed about that. I am not a bad person I believe in equality for everyone. But sometimes indoctrination makes you a bad person, or at least irrational.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by AshtonBlack » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:39 pm

I came to the same conclusion.
Hence why I believe in secular education.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by ...Idle » Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:41 pm

Tigger wrote:
...Idle wrote:
CookieJon wrote:
...Idle wrote:
virphen wrote:@ ...idle

You don't have to worry about gangs of gay mean raping you up the arse. Really. It's just bullshit you got told in school by kids who knew no better.

Time to get over it.

I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.
...
It gets annoying in a club/bar environment since you know most folks are just after a quick shag.

Personally I think you're going to the wrong bars if that keeps happening, but in any case, what a funny little solipsistic attitude you have!

I assume you would never hit on a girl in one of the "club/bar environments" you frequent either, just in case she doesn't appreciate your advances as much as you don't appreciate unwanted advances from others.
Personally, I don't go out to a bar for a shag, if I needed one I would pay for one I actually prefer it. I go out to drink and get high when I go to a club/bar, sometimes its a pleasant surprise if a good looking girl hits on you, and of course then I would flirt back with her, but unless I am totally coked up off my head I do not hit on girls in a bar/club I just don't go there looking for a shag I go there for a drink and to get high. If I need a shag I go see an escort.
Please see my "about me" section ... :pardon:
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Ameri Boi » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:10 pm

...Idle wrote:
virphen wrote:@ ...idle

You don't have to worry about gangs of gay mean raping you up the arse. Really. It's just bullshit you got told in school by kids who knew no better.

Time to get over it.

I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.
and? I've had a woman come on to me, grow a pair and tell them politely no thank you.
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Ameri Boi » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:15 pm

AshtonBlack wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:
...Idle wrote:
Ele wrote:
AshtonBlack wrote:I think in actually answering the OP then. Atheism had nothing logically to "say" about gender or sexuality. However the rational person, tries to look at the evidence and there is none that suggests homosexuality is wrong.
Yes. Why should there be a requirement for someone taking a position against something in particular to take a position on every matter that the other holds an opinion about? You like potatoes. I don't like potatoes. Must we argue about tomatoes to justify potatoes?
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...Idle wrote:Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?
But we all like sex up the bum, don't we?... cummon... you don't know it until you've tried it the right way (as a consenting adult of course)
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The only time anything is going up my ass is when my wife is wearing a strap-on, and I'm being her slave. :shifty:
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by AshtonBlack » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:19 pm

Methinks that's non-standard.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:26 pm

AshtonBlack wrote:Methinks that was non-standard.
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Tigger » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:27 pm

AshtonBlack wrote:Methinks that's non-standard.
... but may be fun if you can get one to do it. ;)
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Post by MrFungus420 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:32 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:Surely a "phobia" is a fear of something, not a hatred of it.
Both. And more. And neither.

Lipids are hydrophobic. They are molecules, they can neither fear nor hate anything.

Think of "-phobia" more as "repulsed by" than hatred or fear. And it can be either physical or emotional/psychological repulsion.
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by MrFungus420 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:40 pm

...Idle wrote:
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I've experienced it first hand. Not being raped but gay men making advances on me.
Lucky for you.. it's nice when someone finds you attractive.
It gets annoying in a club/bar environment since you know most folks are just after a quick shag.
So you would have rather he been interested in a long-term relationship with you?
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by CookieJon » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:42 am

...Idle wrote:
CookieJon wrote:
...Idle wrote: It gets annoying in a club/bar environment since you know most folks are just after a quick shag.
Personally I think you're going to the wrong bars if that keeps happening, but in any case, what a funny little solipsistic attitude you have!

I assume you would never hit on a girl in one of the "club/bar environments" you frequent either, just in case she doesn't appreciate your advances as much as you don't appreciate unwanted advances from others.
Personally, I don't go out to a bar for a shag, if I needed one I would pay for one I actually prefer it. I go out to drink and get high when I go to a club/bar, sometimes its a pleasant surprise if a good looking girl hits on you, and of course then I would flirt back with her, but unless I am totally coked up off my head I do not hit on girls in a bar/club I just don't go there looking for a shag I go there for a drink and to get high. If I need a shag I go see an escort.
And I suppose you think a drugged-up criminal hitting on a young lady is somehow less offensive than a gay man hitting on you, eh?

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