If anyone in here is a self-loathing gay fundamentalist living among other fundamentalists and using this thread as a means of telling himself it's ok to be gay, I have one thing to say:
It's ok to be gay.
Just in case. You never know.
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It's also okay to be Scandinavian. Honest.Normal wrote:If anyone in here is a self-loathing gay fundamentalist living among other fundamentalists and using this thread as a means of telling himself it's ok to be gay, I have one thing to say:
It's ok to be gay.
Just in case. You never know.
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...Idle, how do you know you're not gay? There is a fool-proof test, you know.
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Thanks, mate!camoguard wrote:It's also okay to be Scandinavian. Honest.Normal wrote:If anyone in here is a self-loathing gay fundamentalist living among other fundamentalists and using this thread as a means of telling himself it's ok to be gay, I have one thing to say:
It's ok to be gay.
Just in case. You never know.
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You aren't allowed to be proud of being white. People call you a nazi. Apparently we all have to feel guilty for the actions of our ancestors.Coito ergo sum wrote:,snip....
or "proud to be black/white" - i.e. taking pride in an accident of birth. It doesn't make a lot of rational sense, but people want to be "proud" (feel good about) who they are.
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Idle, do you KNOW if you're gay or not gay? I do.
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How can you be proud of skin colour? What do you actually mean by "proud of being white"?Ghatanothoa wrote:You aren't allowed to be proud of being white. People call you a nazi. Apparently we all have to feel guilty for the actions of our ancestors.Coito ergo sum wrote:,snip....
or "proud to be black/white" - i.e. taking pride in an accident of birth. It doesn't make a lot of rational sense, but people want to be "proud" (feel good about) who they are.
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Fucking nazi!Ghatanothoa wrote:You aren't allowed to be proud of being white. People call you a nazi. Apparently we all have to feel guilty for the actions of our ancestors.Coito ergo sum wrote:,snip....
or "proud to be black/white" - i.e. taking pride in an accident of birth. It doesn't make a lot of rational sense, but people want to be "proud" (feel good about) who they are.
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Oh thank God you told us that!! I was about to have a crisis because I thought someone on the internet about whom I don't give a damn may not be okay with what I "need do in private", but, thankfully, you have no problem with it. (phew!)...Idle wrote:I have no problem with homosexuals doing what they need to do in private
Do I have your leave to go out in public as well?
I see tactlessness as a disability. Nobody likes a boor, and when they reproduce it just degrades the human gene pool that little bit more.I see homosexuality as a disability, since there is no evolutionary desire for a homosexual to have sex with a woman and in turn produce off-spring, which is essentially the propose of all living species, i.e. to propagate their genes through asexual/sexual production.
Oh you're just taking the piss now.For lesbians this is not a problem in the sense as in evolution as rape of females within a species actually has an evolutionary benefit.
Also, why are most heterosexuals proud of being hetero? It makes no sense to me, it makes about much sense to me as a fish being proud of being wet...
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(Although I'm not actually sure all those boys are as straight as they claim, but still...)
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You are allowed to be proud to be white. It's irrational, but you're allowed. Others are allowed to make negative value judgments about you though.Ghatanothoa wrote:You aren't allowed to be proud of being white. People call you a nazi. Apparently we all have to feel guilty for the actions of our ancestors.Coito ergo sum wrote:,snip....
or "proud to be black/white" - i.e. taking pride in an accident of birth. It doesn't make a lot of rational sense, but people want to be "proud" (feel good about) who they are.
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Just a thought. Disliking a person because they are not like one is bigotry, bigotry is a sign of stupidity, in my experience I have yet to meet a really stupid atheist, thus little or no bigotry among atheists....Idle wrote:Hi there,
I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much. In all my years I have found only a hand full of atheists who have had any objection to homosexuality. Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?
Also, why are some homosexuals proud of being homosexual? It makes no sense to me, it makes about much sense to me as a disabled person being proud of being disabled.
Why are gay people proud to be gay? I would guess a simple human backlash at being shit on all the time by bigots.
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Which camp do you fall into, fellow atheist?...Idle wrote:Hi there,
I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.
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I'm not anti-gayCharlou wrote:Which camp do you fall into, fellow atheist?...Idle wrote:Hi there,
I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.
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You misunderstand evolution. It doesn't produce purpose. Evolution simply means that hereditary traits that improve the chances of producing a lot of healthy offspring tend to become more common in a population. If homosexuality is hereditary (and that's a big "if") it might still provide an evolutionary advantage through kin selection or something like that....Idle wrote:I have no problem with homosexuals doing what they need to do in private, I see homosexuality as a disability, since there is no evolutionary desire for a homosexual to have sex with a woman and in turn produce off-spring, which is essentially the propose of all living species, i.e. to propagate their genes through asexual/sexual production. For lesbians this is not a problem in the sense as in evolution as rape of females within a species actually has an evolutionary benefit.
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