Atheism and homosexuality

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:17 pm

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...Idle wrote:I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.
The only other option would be homophobia, no?
Not the only other option, but that is an option. One option could be apathy towards homosexuality. Another could be a disapproval of homosexual conduct based on some moralistic point of view, albeit not based on religion. Neither of those has to be "phobia," although they can be.
You say there are other options? "Don't really care much" covers your first one. "Morals" is just silly.
Right - so, one can not be an ardent supporter of homosexuals and not be a "phobe." Some people can be just plain silly.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by AshtonBlack » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:19 pm

It's because we're all pinko commie bastards who believe in equal rights for everyone should ACTUALLY mean everyone.

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Post by AshtonBlack » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:21 pm

There are no rational arguments against homosexuality that don't involve religion?

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:21 pm

Can we get back to the baby-eating now? :cry:
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Pappa » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:22 pm

AshtonBlack wrote:There are no rational arguments against homosexuality that don't involve religion?
Actually, I think we have a thread about that. :think:
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by ...Idle » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:26 pm

I have no problem with homosexuals doing what they need to do in private, I see homosexuality as a disability, since there is no evolutionary desire for a homosexual to have sex with a woman and in turn produce off-spring, which is essentially the propose of all living species, i.e. to propagate their genes through asexual/sexual production. For lesbians this is not a problem in the sense as in evolution as rape of females within a species actually has an evolutionary benefit.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by beige » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:29 pm

People are what they are.

If society prevents people taking pride in what they are, then something is wrong with society, not the people.

The tendency towards taking pride in their sexuality is more a reaction to highlighting prejudices and misconceptions in general public opinion, than simply trying to rub it in someone's face.
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by FBM » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:31 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:Can we get back to the baby-eating now? :cry:
Has everyone had a turn at raping them yet? Anyway, we could sell them for good money instead of eating them. Think about it... :eddy:
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:36 pm

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Bella Fortuna wrote:Can we get back to the baby-eating now? :cry:
Has everyone had a turn at raping them yet? Anyway, we could sell them for good money instead of eating them. Think about it... :eddy:
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by hackenslash » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:43 pm

...Idle wrote:I have no problem with homosexuals doing what they need to do in private, I see homosexuality as a disability, since there is no evolutionary desire for a homosexual to have sex with a woman and in turn produce off-spring, which is essentially the propose of all living species, i.e. to propagate their genes through asexual/sexual production. For lesbians this is not a problem in the sense as in evolution as rape of females within a species actually has an evolutionary benefit.
So tell us, oh wise one, what the evolutionary benefit of overpopulation might be.
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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by GrahamH » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:48 pm

...Idle wrote:I have no problem with homosexuals doing what they need to do in private, I see homosexuality as a disability, since there is no evolutionary desire for a homosexual to have sex with a woman and in turn produce off-spring, which is essentially the propose of all living species, i.e. to propagate their genes through asexual/sexual production. For lesbians this is not a problem in the sense as in evolution as rape of females within a species actually has an evolutionary benefit.
Trying to build morals based on evolutionary principles is immoral. Social Darwinism is utterly discredited.

Suggesting that the morality of lesbianism is defined by their rapeability is obscene.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by camoguard » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:50 pm

The opening post is silly from the perspective that it is an assumption to think atheism would be at odds with the homosexual community. I understand that there are conservative groups and traditional marriage activists that are in disagreement with the homosexual community and I'm of the opinion that those groups are not likely to have atheists in their midst.

Atheists can have any form of sex they'd like since atheism only refers to belief. But I tie it often to rational thought (there are irrational atheists, but I feel like there is a trend in the atheist community). Rational thinkers are not going to have an issue with homosexuals because there are no good arguments for retaining an issue, in my opinion.

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Re: Atheism and homosexuality

Post by Fagg » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:02 pm

...Idle wrote:Hi there,

I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much. In all my years I have found only a hand full of atheists who have had any objection to homosexuality. Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?
I hate fags and I'm an atheist.
Also, why are some homosexuals proud of being homosexual? It makes no sense to me, it makes about much sense to me as a disabled person being proud of being disabled.
Lot's of people are proud of their disability because they chose it, like soldiers in Iraq who got their leg blown off or eyes shot out. Likewise, I'll bet there are guys who go into battle and get scared queer. They should be proud of that if they did it fighting for their country.

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