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Re: String the terrorists up! Nice job...

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:19 pm

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Re: String the terrorists up! Nice job...

Post by Valden » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:26 pm

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Valden wrote:Not really. You can hint at homegrown terrorists (like the American Taliban aka Christian Fundies) but if you were to actually come right out and say it on a popular news station, both the American Taliban and the politically correct Fluffies would freak.
You don't watch much television, do you?
I watch plenty. :| I have never seen any news station have an employee even say the words "American Taliban" or even hint that we have homegrown terrorists.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm not including Fux News in that. I'd rather eat shit then watch them. I'm sure then enjoy hinting that Obama is a marxist muslim terrorist.

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Post by drl2 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:31 pm

Has FOX News given any of them their own show yet?
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Post by RuleBritannia » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:35 pm

Valden wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Valden wrote:Not really. You can hint at homegrown terrorists (like the American Taliban aka Christian Fundies) but if you were to actually come right out and say it on a popular news station, both the American Taliban and the politically correct Fluffies would freak.
You don't watch much television, do you?
I watch plenty. :| I have never seen any news station have an employee even say the words "American Taliban" or even hint that we have homegrown terrorists.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm not including Fux News in that. I'd rather eat shit then watch them. I'm sure then enjoy hinting that Obama is a marxist muslim terrorist.
The christian right in American might be crazy, but to compare them to the Taliban is just stupid.
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Re: String the terrorists up! Nice job...

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:38 pm

Valden wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Valden wrote:Not really. You can hint at homegrown terrorists (like the American Taliban aka Christian Fundies) but if you were to actually come right out and say it on a popular news station, both the American Taliban and the politically correct Fluffies would freak.
You don't watch much television, do you?
I watch plenty. :| I have never seen any news station have an employee even say the words "American Taliban" or even hint that we have homegrown terrorists.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm not including Fux News in that. I'd rather eat shit then watch them. I'm sure then enjoy hinting that Obama is a marxist muslim terrorist.
Really? CNN mentions them and has ever since Tim McVeigh's little antic. Even the History Channel has had shows about them. It's not a taboo subject by any means, even if you haven't run across it.
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Post by Wumbologist » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:54 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
The christian right in American might be crazy, but to compare them to the Taliban is just stupid.

You don't think plotting to murder police officers and set roadside bombs near their funerals gives fair grounds for that comparison?

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Re: String the terrorists up! Nice job...

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:55 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Valden wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Valden wrote:Not really. You can hint at homegrown terrorists (like the American Taliban aka Christian Fundies) but if you were to actually come right out and say it on a popular news station, both the American Taliban and the politically correct Fluffies would freak.
You don't watch much television, do you?
I watch plenty. :| I have never seen any news station have an employee even say the words "American Taliban" or even hint that we have homegrown terrorists.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm not including Fux News in that. I'd rather eat shit then watch them. I'm sure then enjoy hinting that Obama is a marxist muslim terrorist.
The christian right in American might be crazy, but to compare them to the Taliban is just stupid.
Why is it? :dono:

Two groups of people that wish to impose their ultra-restrictive, psychotic view of their religion on other people through murder and intimidation. The only difference is that the taleban represent a far larger percentage of their country's population and are up against a far smaller, less well organised opponent in a much less advanced country. Don't let the lack of opportunity blind you to the similarity in mentality.
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Re: String the terrorists up! Nice job...

Post by Valden » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:03 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Valden wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Valden wrote:Not really. You can hint at homegrown terrorists (like the American Taliban aka Christian Fundies) but if you were to actually come right out and say it on a popular news station, both the American Taliban and the politically correct Fluffies would freak.
You don't watch much television, do you?
I watch plenty. :| I have never seen any news station have an employee even say the words "American Taliban" or even hint that we have homegrown terrorists.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm not including Fux News in that. I'd rather eat shit then watch them. I'm sure then enjoy hinting that Obama is a marxist muslim terrorist.
Really? CNN mentions them and has ever since Tim McVeigh's little antic. Even the History Channel has had shows about them. It's not a taboo subject by any means, even if you haven't run across it.
Interesting (I don't watch the History Channel. :P)

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Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:06 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
Valden wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Valden wrote:Not really. You can hint at homegrown terrorists (like the American Taliban aka Christian Fundies) but if you were to actually come right out and say it on a popular news station, both the American Taliban and the politically correct Fluffies would freak.
You don't watch much television, do you?
I watch plenty. :| I have never seen any news station have an employee even say the words "American Taliban" or even hint that we have homegrown terrorists.

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm not including Fux News in that. I'd rather eat shit then watch them. I'm sure then enjoy hinting that Obama is a marxist muslim terrorist.
The christian right in American might be crazy, but to compare them to the Taliban is just stupid.
Why is it? :dono:

Two groups of people that wish to impose their ultra-restrictive, psychotic view of their religion on other people through murder and intimidation. The only difference is that the taleban represent a far larger percentage of their country's population and are up against a far smaller, less well organised opponent in a much less advanced country. Don't let the lack of opportunity blind you to the similarity in mentality.
They aren't two groups though, the "American christian right" is just a broad generalisation, the "Taliban" is an actual political group. It's like comparing an American communist to a Bolshevik, it's lunacy.
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Valden wrote:Interesting (I don't watch the History Channel. :P)
I'm a historian, I catch a lot of stuff most people would abandon for PTL.
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RuleBritannia wrote:They aren't two groups though, the "American christian right" is just a broad generalisation, the "Taliban" is an actual political group. It's like comparing an American communist to a Bolshevik, it's lunacy.
Lunacy is quite a strong word to describe a difference of opinion, don't you think? :dono:

And I repeat my earlier statement. Don't let the lack of opportunity blind you to the similarity in mentality. I was not claiming any comparison in power, size, funding, influence - merely that they are the same kind of nutbags underneath.
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:They aren't two groups though, the "American christian right" is just a broad generalisation, the "Taliban" is an actual political group. It's like comparing an American communist to a Bolshevik, it's lunacy.
Lunacy is quite a strong word to describe a difference of opinion, don't you think? :dono:

And I repeat my earlier statement. Don't let the lack of opportunity blind you to the similarity in mentality. I was not claiming any comparison in power, size, funding, influence - merely that they are the same kind of nutbags underneath.
I'm sure that there is a small, armed, extremist element amongst the much broader American christian right that deserve the comparison, but to generalise the whole of the christian right to that position would be a mistake.
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:They aren't two groups though, the "American christian right" is just a broad generalisation, the "Taliban" is an actual political group. It's like comparing an American communist to a Bolshevik, it's lunacy.
Lunacy is quite a strong word to describe a difference of opinion, don't you think? :dono:

And I repeat my earlier statement. Don't let the lack of opportunity blind you to the similarity in mentality. I was not claiming any comparison in power, size, funding, influence - merely that they are the same kind of nutbags underneath.
I agree that some of the christian right are Taliban like, but you should avoid lumping all of them together, you could lose potential allies.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:40 am

JimC wrote:
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RuleBritannia wrote:They aren't two groups though, the "American christian right" is just a broad generalisation, the "Taliban" is an actual political group. It's like comparing an American communist to a Bolshevik, it's lunacy.
Lunacy is quite a strong word to describe a difference of opinion, don't you think? :dono:

And I repeat my earlier statement. Don't let the lack of opportunity blind you to the similarity in mentality. I was not claiming any comparison in power, size, funding, influence - merely that they are the same kind of nutbags underneath.
I'm sure that there is a small, armed, extremist element amongst the much broader American christian right that deserve the comparison, but to generalise the whole of the christian right to that position would be a mistake.
I was referring to the guys in the OP (and others like them.) The ones that were planning to kill a cop and then bomb the funeral. Not to the entire religious right.

Valden mentioned that the US news never refers to homegrown terrorists as the "American taliban" in the post that RB took exception to. To the best of my understanding, she was not referring to the entire religious right either. Her point, and mine, was that there are groups that are every bit as fanatical and violent as the taliban in the USA.
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RuleBritannia wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:They aren't two groups though, the "American christian right" is just a broad generalisation, the "Taliban" is an actual political group. It's like comparing an American communist to a Bolshevik, it's lunacy.
Lunacy is quite a strong word to describe a difference of opinion, don't you think? :dono:

And I repeat my earlier statement. Don't let the lack of opportunity blind you to the similarity in mentality. I was not claiming any comparison in power, size, funding, influence - merely that they are the same kind of nutbags underneath.
I agree that some of the christian right are Taliban like, but you should avoid lumping all of them together, you could lose potential allies.
I don't believe that I did that. Please read my last post.
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