Another day, another threat of all-out war.

[klr]

The Glorious Glosters are on standby.....

"Which way to the Imjin River?"

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The Glorious Glosters are on standby.....

"Which way to the Imjin River?"

Good thing it's not my turn to volunteer.

[FBM]

Now they're beginning to mumble things about a possible torpedo.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00295.html

[JimC]

The Glorious Glosters are on standby.....

"Which way to the Imjin River?"

"Show 'em your cap badges..."

[JimC]

Now they're beginning to mumble things about a possible torpedo.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00295.html

Damn the torpedos!

[Surendra Darathy]

Hmm. All out war. Makes me think of a kimchee and bacon omelette.

[FBM]

Hmm. All out war. Makes me think of a kimchee and bacon omelette.

In related news:

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00884.html

N.Korea 'Runs Naval Suicide Squads

Former North Korean soldiers who defected to South Korea on Monday claimed "underwater suicide squads" may have been responsible for the mysterious sinking of a South Korean naval vessel on Friday.

They are similar to the underwater demolition teams operated by the South Korean Navy, the defectors claimed. Recruited from the cream among North Korea's naval commandos, members of the teams are treated well but undergo brutal training.

According to one high-ranking North Korean defector, the North formed suicide attack squads in each branch of the military after the country's leader Kim Jong-il said during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 that no military in the world can defeat an army that can carry out suicide bombings.

The suicide attack squads are known as the "invincibles" in the Air Force, "bombs" in the Army and "human torpedoes" in the Navy. North Korea is said to place special emphasis on the naval squads. It operates a brigade of suicide attack squads in its East Sea and West Sea fleets and they are considered key to overcoming North Korea's inferior conventional military power.

One former North Korean sailor who defected to South Korea said the suicide squads have many semi-submersible vessels that can carry two bombers and either two torpedoes or two floating mines. In areas like the West Sea where the underwater current is fast, the suicide bombers train with mines rather than torpedoes.

One defector who served in North Korea's intelligence service, said, "Following the first naval battle in 1999, North Korea realized that it cannot defeat the South Korean Navy by conventional means and began studying unconventional methods." The best method is said to be the use of "acoustic mines" carried by small, semi-submersibles that travel at speeds of less than 2 km/h. The craft could be detected by South Korean sonar if they travel any faster. If the underwater squads returned after placing the mines on the hull of a ship, it would be very difficult to find evidence of the attack.

[AshtonBlack]

So sonar can't pickup torpedo sized objects moving slowly towards them now?
From the wiki....

"Underwater security:
Sonar can be used to detect frogmen and other scuba divers. This can be applicable around ships or at entrances to ports. Active sonar can also be used as a deterrent and/or disablement mechanism. One such device is the Cerberus system."

I guess the South Koreans were caught with their sonar off?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So sonar can't pickup torpedo sized objects moving slowly towards them now?
From the wiki....

"Underwater security:
Sonar can be used to detect frogmen and other scuba divers. This can be applicable around ships or at entrances to ports. Active sonar can also be used as a deterrent and/or disablement mechanism. One such device is the Cerberus system."

I guess the South Koreans were caught with their sonar off?

One pound packages of C-4 at various locations near the ship, remote controlled.

[AshtonBlack]

So sonar can't pickup torpedo sized objects moving slowly towards them now?
From the wiki....

"Underwater security:
Sonar can be used to detect frogmen and other scuba divers. This can be applicable around ships or at entrances to ports. Active sonar can also be used as a deterrent and/or disablement mechanism. One such device is the Cerberus system."

I guess the South Koreans were caught with their sonar off?

One pound packages of C-4 at various locations near the ship, remote controlled.

I was referring to the suicide scuba squad.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So sonar can't pickup torpedo sized objects moving slowly towards them now?
From the wiki....

"Underwater security:
Sonar can be used to detect frogmen and other scuba divers. This can be applicable around ships or at entrances to ports. Active sonar can also be used as a deterrent and/or disablement mechanism. One such device is the Cerberus system."

I guess the South Koreans were caught with their sonar off?

One pound packages of C-4 at various locations near the ship, remote controlled.

I was referring to the suicide scuba squad.

It worked in the Mekong for "discouraging" divers.

[FBM]

They're leaning towards torpedo now. I think it's too cold for a scuba team to stay in the water long enough to affix explosives by hand. They couldn't get a vessel to lauch from close enough without detection.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00382.html

[Gawdzilla Sama]

They're leaning towards torpedo now. I think it's too cold for a scuba team to stay in the water long enough to affix explosives by hand. They couldn't get a vessel to lauch from close enough without detection.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00382.html

Too bad they don't have R.O.V.s, ain't it.

[FBM]

They're leaning towards torpedo now. I think it's too cold for a scuba team to stay in the water long enough to affix explosives by hand. They couldn't get a vessel to lauch from close enough without detection.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00382.html

Too bad they don't have R.O.V.s, ain't it.

Hmm. An ROV launched from a slow-moving semi-submersible...What's the range of an ROV?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

They're leaning towards torpedo now. I think it's too cold for a scuba team to stay in the water long enough to affix explosives by hand. They couldn't get a vessel to lauch from close enough without detection.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/htm ... 00382.html

Too bad they don't have R.O.V.s, ain't it.

Hmm. An ROV launched from a slow-moving semi-submersible...What's the range of an ROV?

What's the range of a Mark 46 torpedo?