I agree that if I was living in a muslim country I would have to abide by their laws even though I don't agree with them. Why can't muslims extend the same courtesy when they are not in a muslim country?mandelson wrote:If I was a muslim living in a muslim country, then I would not have any problem with Islamic laws.
They are God's laws. Allah's Rules are much better than stupid man made laws.
God is a lot superior to men, wouldn't you agree?
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There's only one problem with this story. Many scholars think, due to the fact it has a different writing style, think that this was added to the Bible at a later date. Even some Christian scholars think this.Theophilus wrote:
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" "No one, sir," she said. Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
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Why? Yours are the most damaging to your cause.mandelson wrote:dont get so desperate. use your own words.Gawdzilla wrote:mandelson wrote:
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Jesus said to Jews:
He who is without sin may cast the first stone.
Atheists should first fix their own messed up lives before pointing their immoral fingers at Prophet Mohammed.
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He who is without sin may cast the first stone.
But the moral of the story is that Atheists shouldn't throw stones at Muslims.Animavore wrote:
There's only one problem with this story. Many scholars think, due to the fact it has a different writing style, think that this was added to the Bible at a later date. Even some Christian scholars think this.
Atheists should first fix their own messed up lives before pointing their immoral fingers at Prophet Mohammed.
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Yes, the normal opinion is that it was a separate story, present in the oral Tradition, and found a resting place in the Gospel of John (some manuscripts included it another Gospel, but I can't remember which one). It is universally (within Christianity) considered inspired scripture, though it was probably not from the author of John.Animavore wrote:There's only one problem with this story. Many scholars think, due to the fact it has a different writing style, that this was added to the Bible at a later date. Even some Christian scholars think this.
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A fictious fantasy superior to real men AND WOMEN? Are you serious?mandelson wrote:If I was a muslim living in a muslim country, then I would not have any problem with Islamic laws.
They are God's laws. Allah's Rules are much better than stupid man made laws.
God is a lot superior to men, wouldn't you agree?
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No. Because god doesn't exist.mandelson wrote:If I was a muslim living in a muslim country, then I would not have any problem with Islamic laws.
They are God's laws. Allah's Rules are much better than stupid man made laws.
God is a lot superior to men, wouldn't you agree?
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It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
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So my question remains: do you agree with what Islamic law says should be done with homosexuals? If not, how can you call yourself a Muslim?mandelson wrote:If I was a muslim living in a muslim country, then I would not have any problem with Islamic laws.
They are God's laws. Allah's Rules are much better than stupid man made laws.
God is a lot superior to men, wouldn't you agree?
And don't you see the contradiction in what you just wrote? "If I was a muslim living in a muslim country, then I would not have any problem with Islamic laws." Okay, so your approval of these laws is location-dependent. How do you square that with "They are God's laws"? Are God's laws location-dependent? If not, do they apply everywhere? And if they apply everywhere, then shouldn't you agree with them no matter where you are? Which brings me back to this:
Do you agree with what Islamic law says should be done with homosexuals? If not, how can you call yourself a Muslim?
Could you finally give a straightforward answer to this please?
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You will know that Christ taught "turn the other cheek". I think sometimes this is misunderstood as letting other people just have their way. But to turn the other cheek was also to stand one's ground. It was more obstinate than it was submissive. But anyway, that is getting totally off-topic. I just wanted to correct the misunderstanding that Christ may have endorsed stoning of gays. I'll duck back out again.mandelson wrote:Jesus said to Jews: He who is without sin may cast the first stone.
But the moral of the story is that Atheists shouldn't throw stones at Muslims.
Atheists should first fix their own messed up lives before pointing their immoral fingers at Prophet Mohammed.
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mandelson wrote:Jesus said to Jews: He who is without sin may cast the first stone.
But the moral of the story is that Atheists shouldn't throw stones at Muslims.
Atheists should first fix their own messed up lives before pointing their immoral fingers at Prophet Mohammed.
We don't need to. You damage your self and your religion pretty well without us. Between the admission that children are fair game for sexual congress to claiming that Jews are bad you have merely high-lighted what most Westerners think about Islam that it is a backward, immoral, twisted, depraved, sick, oppressive, sectarian, contradictory, hateful, misogynistic and incoherent cult unworthy of respect.I hope Muslims enjoy happy lives with their 6 year-old wives. That's if they can tear them away from those Dora the Explorer cartoons they watch.
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Edit: And shouldn't you be talking about 'allah' instead of 'god', anyway? Have you forgotten which fantasy world you've bought into?FBM wrote:A fictious fantasy superior to real men AND WOMEN? Are you serious?mandelson wrote:If I was a muslim living in a muslim country, then I would not have any problem with Islamic laws.
They are God's laws. Allah's Rules are much better than stupid man made laws.
God is a lot superior to men, wouldn't you agree?
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"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
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He won't answer you. You are, after all inferior, as a woman.Pluto2 wrote:No. Because god doesn't exist.mandelson wrote:If I was a muslim living in a muslim country, then I would not have any problem with Islamic laws.
They are God's laws. Allah's Rules are much better than stupid man made laws.
God is a lot superior to men, wouldn't you agree?
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Inspired scripture or just making it up as they go along?Theophilus wrote:Yes, the normal opinion is that it was a separate story, present in the oral Tradition, and found a resting place in the Gospel of John (some manuscripts included it another Gospel, but I can't remember which one). It is universally (within Christianity) considered inspired scripture, though it was probably not from the author of John.Animavore wrote:There's only one problem with this story. Many scholars think, due to the fact it has a different writing style, that this was added to the Bible at a later date. Even some Christian scholars think this.
I guess we'll never know.
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i got to go.
i'll come back and read everything and then answer all your questions, but not funny ones, just the
serious questions about my religion. Islam not a pissing matter. so please be serious, will ya.
you atheists piss on anything, dont you. :pissed:
its not NICE !!!!!!!!!!!! Dont you know that God will throw you in HELL !!!!!!!!!
see ya monday.
Mandy
i'll come back and read everything and then answer all your questions, but not funny ones, just the
serious questions about my religion. Islam not a pissing matter. so please be serious, will ya.
you atheists piss on anything, dont you. :pissed:
its not NICE !!!!!!!!!!!! Dont you know that God will throw you in HELL !!!!!!!!!
see ya monday.
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If I was allowed to call you a twat I would. But the rules don't allow it. So I won't.
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