Dune 2.0 Peanut Gallery

[Blip]

Why not just leave the day/night cycle as is, but allow conversation overnight as well?

Or, as a compromise, allow conversation a few hours before day starts, and after day ends.

The thing about off-hours game talk is that it can affect what players decide to do for their night actions. That's why gametalk stops during the night in non-PM games.

Why is that a problem, Oblivion?

[oblivion]

Why not just leave the day/night cycle as is, but allow conversation overnight as well?

Or, as a compromise, allow conversation a few hours before day starts, and after day ends.

The thing about off-hours game talk is that it can affect what players decide to do for their night actions. That's why gametalk stops during the night in non-PM games.

Why is that a problem, Oblivion?

It handicaps players with night actions who can't wait around and see all the after-hours discussion. And players who can hold off (or can process all that extra information when they aren't half-asleep) get to act with more knowledge than their counterparts in another time zone.

Before you decide whether you like or hate no-PM games, see how this one goes. You guys are already figuring out some of the strategy adjustments that are necessary. I've been really impressed with how this game day went.

A key part of the no-PM game is the curtain of silence that falls while the people with night actions bite their nails, sweat it out in solitude, and then make their fateful decisions.

[MissingNo.]

I know I'm completely off topic but I'm reading some articles on the reformation of the catholic church for a class right now and I just discovered the source of 95Theses' name. You sly cat! I know I'm probably the only one here who didn't get the reference but this was a revelation for me. Anyway, resume your discussion.

[Azathoth]

I just try to forget about things when it is the night round. There is nothing I can do about anything so I pretend it isn't happening. I start to get jittery around an hour before the day round starts though

[Blip]

The thing about off-hours game talk is that it can affect what players decide to do for their night actions. That's why gametalk stops during the night in non-PM games.

Why is that a problem, Oblivion?

It handicaps players with night actions who can't wait around and see all the after-hours discussion.

I would argue that players in at least one time zone are handicapped with the current format: at the moment, GMT players miss a large part of the day round discussion and if wasn't us it would be someone else. This isn't a criticism in any way, just a result of time zone issues. I noticed that in a 24 hour game, everyone gets a chance to participate and miss out equally, so to speak.

On the other hand, I do applaud the no-PM format as I think it makes the game more inclusive for all, especially new players.

I would have thought that you could combine no-PM and 24 hour play? Night round players are just as likely to perspire alone if extra information is coming in and a 12-hour (real time) round ensures that everyone gets to see at least a little bit of one session and most of the other.

But I'm not the one giving up my time to run the game, and I defer to your experience, which is much, much greater than mine

[oblivion]

The thing about off-hours game talk is that it can affect what players decide to do for their night actions. That's why gametalk stops during the night in non-PM games.

Why is that a problem, Oblivion?

It handicaps players with night actions who can't wait around and see all the after-hours discussion.

I would argue that players in at least one time zone are handicapped with the current format: at the moment, GMT players miss a large part of the day round discussion and if wasn't us it would be someone else. This isn't a criticism in any way, just a result of time zone issues. I noticed that in a 24 hour game, everyone gets a chance to participate and miss out equally, so to speak.

On the other hand, I do applaud the no-PM format as I think it makes the game more inclusive for all, especially new players.

I would have thought that you could combine no-PM and 24 hour play? Night round players are just as likely to perspire alone if extra information is coming in and a 12-hour (real time) round ensures that everyone gets to see at least a little bit of one session and most of the other.

But I'm not the one giving up my time to run the game, and I defer to your experience, which is much, much greater than mine

The time zone span has been a learning experience for me, too. I've GMed games with time zones ranging from GMT + 2 to GMT - 8, which puts the two extremes at a disadvantage (or cuts into their sleep). This is different. If I run another game here at rationalia, I'll probably try a 24 hr day/8 hour night format.

And I'm willing to switch to that starting with Day 3 if the people playing this game would prefer that.

[AshtonBlack]

So what time is the next phase change?

[oblivion]

So what time is the next phase change?

Night action deadline is in 30 minutes. I believe I have all the night actions.

The next game day will start in 1 hour.

[95Theses]

I know I'm completely off topic but I'm reading some articles on the reformation of the catholic church for a class right now and I just discovered the source of 95Theses' name. You sly cat! I know I'm probably the only one here who didn't get the reference but this was a revelation for me. Anyway, resume your discussion.

It is supposed to be both a commentary on both how the catholic church thought it was perfectly within their remit to sell places in heaven for cash (through the sale of indulgences), and also how Christians see fit to interpret the supposed Inerrant Holy Word of God TM any old way they like and then kill and torture each other over who has the right interpretation Of the same fucking book.( as the 95 Theses was the main cause of the Protestant 'Reformation' in 1517)

[oblivion]

The time zone span has been a learning experience for me, too. I've GMed games with time zones ranging from GMT + 2 to GMT - 8, which puts the two extremes at a disadvantage (or cuts into their sleep). This is different. If I run another game here at rationalia, I'll probably try a 24 hr day/8 hour night format.

And I'm willing to switch to that starting with Day 3 if the people playing this game would prefer that.

Players, let me know if this would be preferable,

[normal]

The time zone span has been a learning experience for me, too. I've GMed games with time zones ranging from GMT + 2 to GMT - 8, which puts the two extremes at a disadvantage (or cuts into their sleep). This is different. If I run another game here at rationalia, I'll probably try a 24 hr day/8 hour night format.

And I'm willing to switch to that starting with Day 3 if the people playing this game would prefer that.

Players, let me know if this would be preferable,

I kind of like how it is now where I have to wait for it. But I don't really care if you change or not

[Don't Panic]

The time zone span has been a learning experience for me, too. I've GMed games with time zones ranging from GMT + 2 to GMT - 8, which puts the two extremes at a disadvantage (or cuts into their sleep). This is different. If I run another game here at rationalia, I'll probably try a 24 hr day/8 hour night format.

And I'm willing to switch to that starting with Day 3 if the people playing this game would prefer that.

Players, let me know if this would be preferable,

I kind of like how it is now where I have to wait for it. But I don't really care if you change or not

I like the 12 hour format too, even if it does mean that I miss the day end every day.

[AshtonBlack]

Awwwwww shit.

[Don't Panic]

Awwwwww shit.

You probably did when you died.

[virphen]

Morning people, did I miss anything ?