The Google-friendly History Question Thread.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

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Because "lesbians" were officially non-existent in Victorian England?

IIRC, Vicky couldn't handle the notion , so any mention of the dreaded L-word had to be avoided at all costs.

The story that Victoria struck the word "lesbian" out of the laws is a myth, according to the BBC Magazine.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that she wouldn't have exerted some influence one way or another. :hum:

I'll give you that.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I will have to answer this question. You are sniffing around the right lesbians but nobody has nailed them yet!

Sappho wrote many poems praising the beauty of young girls and women. To protect the delicate sensibilities of some of the more prudish Clinton Huxley's of the time, historians concocted the story that she was the headmistress of a girl's finishing school that was talking about her pride in her charges in order to explain the poetry without reference to girl-on-girl action.

Actually, there is no hard evidence that Sappho actually was a lesbian (except in the sense that she came from Lesbos) and the poems in question are believed by many to be written from the point of view of male admirers - a common device used by poets of both sexes at the time.

One rumour I heard regarding QV's attitude to lesbianism was that she refused to believe it even existed. When laws were passed regarding male homosexuality, she refused to extend the laws to women because, "no woman would ever dream of such a thing." I have also heard it said that this was bollocks and that women were excluded because the lawmakers feared that mentioning such an act might give women ideas that they would never come by naturally - right! :hum:

[klr]

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One rumour I heard regarding QV's attitude to lesbianism was that she refused to believe it even existed. When laws were passed regarding male homosexuality, she refused to extend the laws to women because, "no woman would ever dream of such a thing." I have also heard it said that this was bollocks and that women were excluded because the lawmakers feared that mentioning such an act might give women ideas that they would never come by naturally - right! :hum:

That's pretty much what I had read as well, but it is the way of these things that when you come back to something you haven't read about in years, there's a revisionist theory in the works somewhere, just like the one you've given here.

More reading needed.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

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One rumour I heard regarding QV's attitude to lesbianism was that she refused to believe it even existed. When laws were passed regarding male homosexuality, she refused to extend the laws to women because, "no woman would ever dream of such a thing." I have also heard it said that this was bollocks and that women were excluded because the lawmakers feared that mentioning such an act might give women ideas that they would never come by naturally - right! :hum:

That's pretty much what I had read as well, but it is the way of these things that when you come back to something you haven't read about in years, there's a revisionist theory in the works somewhere, just like the one you've given here.

More reading needed.

That's history for ya!

[Xamonas Chegwé]

So whose turn is it after all that?

Dasein I suppose, if she's about.

[klr]

So whose turn is it after all that?

Dasein I suppose, if she's about.

Correct ... give her a while, it's Friday.

Or maybe me, since I answered her question.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

So whose turn is it after all that?

Dasein I suppose, if she's about.

Correct ... give her a while, it's Friday.

Or maybe me, since I answered her question.

True - I forgot about that - off you go then!

[klr]

Ah crap, I'm watching TV.

OK, here's one I prepared earlier:

Who said this, and of whom: "As much as any single human being, miraculously magnified, can ever be a nation, he was France."

I've taken this from a book, so I don't know how google-friendly this really is.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Ah crap, I'm watching TV.

OK, here's one I prepared earlier:

Who said this, and of whom: "As much as any single human being, miraculously magnified, can ever be a nation, he was France."

I've taken this from a book, so I don't know how google-friendly this really is.

Henri Petain was probably the target, and I'll go with Pershing for the speaks, just for fun.

[klr]

Ah crap, I'm watching TV.

OK, here's one I prepared earlier:

Who said this, and of whom: "As much as any single human being, miraculously magnified, can ever be a nation, he was France."

I've taken this from a book, so I don't know how google-friendly this really is.

Henri Petain was probably the target, and I'll go with Pershing for the speaks, just for fun.

Wrong on both counts ...

[Don't Panic]

Ah crap, I'm watching TV.

OK, here's one I prepared earlier:

Who said this, and of whom: "As much as any single human being, miraculously magnified, can ever be a nation, he was France."

I've taken this from a book, so I don't know how google-friendly this really is.

We had this guy in one of Gawds questions before, Clemenceau, he was nicknamed 'the tiger', the words read like Churchill but I think I have my eras wrong, clemenceau was WWI ish, Churchill WWII.

[klr]

Ah crap, I'm watching TV.

OK, here's one I prepared earlier:

Who said this, and of whom: "As much as any single human being, miraculously magnified, can ever be a nation, he was France."

I've taken this from a book, so I don't know how google-friendly this really is.

We had this guy in one of Gawds questions before, Clemenceau, he was nicknamed 'the tiger', the words read like Churchill but I think I have my eras wrong, clemenceau was WWI ish, Churchill WWII.

Correct and correct!

You do Churchill a disservice if you think he was only a mover and shaker in WW II - look up a potted history on wiki sometime.

Anyway, you're up next - and why are you not out getting rat-arsed like any self-respecting Paddy on a Friday night?

[Don't Panic]

Ah crap, I'm watching TV.

OK, here's one I prepared earlier:

Who said this, and of whom: "As much as any single human being, miraculously magnified, can ever be a nation, he was France."

I've taken this from a book, so I don't know how google-friendly this really is.

We had this guy in one of Gawds questions before, Clemenceau, he was nicknamed 'the tiger', the words read like Churchill but I think I have my eras wrong, clemenceau was WWI ish, Churchill WWII.

Correct and correct!

You do Churchill a disservice if you think he was only a mover and shaker in WW II - look up a potted history on wiki sometime.

Anyway, you're up next - and why are you not out getting rat-arsed like any self-respecting Paddy on a Friday night?

Work at 9a.m. tomorrow. Plus I'm meeting my sweetheart in a while and that's a lot more fun than drinking.

I'm drawing a blank on a question, any takers?

[klr]

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Anyway, you're up next - and why are you not out getting rat-arsed like any self-respecting Paddy on a Friday night?

Work at 9a.m. tomorrow. Plus I'm meeting my sweetheart in a while and that's a lot more fun than drinking.

I'm drawing a blank on a question, any takers?

Jesus. There was a time when no self-respecting Irish man would talk like that.

Meh, let's leave it open. First come, first serve. It could be me, you, Zilla, XC, ... Dasein ... anyone. :hum:

[Gawdzilla Sama]

What head of state banned Scrabble because he considered it too intellectual?